Talis is one intelligent... cow
So when I decided to finally poke my head up to the surface, I tumbled upon an interesting argument between Fiamme and Talis. This is what Talis says:
Fiamme-chan is so cute when she's clueless about computers ^^.
Okay class, time for revision! First we have Queen of the World (forgive me for bringing up the dead art of capitilization, similar to latin in it's use apparently), you lovely darling who's use of the english language apalls me.
>>I'd bet the world the anonymous who posted the message above me is Khan/Max/Mysfaer/WizdomGoddess/whatevershecallsherself. If she hadn't only thrown 'the towel' of hers, she would actually comment on EVERYTHING she sees.
Now, though, the situation has changed. She can't defend herself, because if she does, she'd only embarrass her already embarrassing self.
She's one scared cat. Hilarious, isn't she?
First point, the world is not yours to bet, if it were, I'd be living on mars, and we'd be ruled by cabbages.
Second! Please shut up, you are hurting my brain. If you haven't figured it out yet, Max and WG wouldn't use "anonymous" why should they hide? They'be made thier point and they are ready to face the spotlight.
Third? The only scared one here is Fiamme, who has cowered in the darkness of Genghis Khan's witty and useful commentary for a very long time, and she has done nothing, until they tripped. Might as well kick them while they're down, if they were down to begin with?
Now that that is finished, gloves off Fiamme-chan. You see, I'm sweet most of the time, but your endless mazi-like approach to crushing people's dream is getting to be... {insert expletive here} annoying.
Prestigious high school or not, crushing dreams, hopes and anything that resembles happiness is something this average girl doesn't tolerate! Let's make a few points. Of course, now that I know you attend the ivy league of high schools in the Philippines, I can understand your superiority complex. Of course, I don't understand it, having attended average public schools my entire life, but I can still dislike it. Obviously your need to insult anyone who is inferior to your majesty is feeding off your "superiority" to the average highschool student, ne? Oh gosh, forgive me, I'm just one of those students.
If everyone followed grammar as closely and to-the-point as yourself, popular writers such as Shakespeare would never become writers! Shakespeare couldn't spell, so if everyone were like you, popular plays such as Romeo and Juliet would betraded in for... well nothing, since mistakes are not to be accepted. The Iliad would never have been published! Tales of Genji would never have been thought of!
See what your "obsession" has brought to light? Grammar has only a minor role in any language, especially in language arts. You cannot be grammatically correct, and creative, at the same time. If there were rules to painting, such works as The Last Supper and Madonna of the Rocks would never have been done! Details are nice, but obsession with details and correctness are completely... useless.
As I write a short story as or a new chapter for a novel, I watch as Word underlines sentences, I have come to ignore it unless Word picks up something I know isn't right! Who cares about sentence structure? Creativity is freedom, rules are a cage. Obviously, important things like capitilization and punctuation are important, but come to think of it, early language didn't even have that, it was merely a decoration! Evntually people with a lower grade of obsession than yourself came to think, "Well, maybe putting spaces between our thoughts, marked with say, a little dot, would making reading easier!". Of course, they would have to have a lower grade of obsession, since, if they were like you, words would not be printed at all, without the strict supervision of 10 editors and an executioner, you know, if you write a sentence that isn't of the "appropriate" order.
I must say, your attention to detail could almost be described as Obsessive-Compulsive. Are you sure you don't have OCD? I know someone who does, but she isn't a grammar nazi.
Oh gosh, now I've done it, I've almost become a flamer. Well, what do you call a flamer who flames flamers? Krusnik? No, that's a vampire who eats vampires, whoopsie, no more television for Talis.
Hope you enjoy this~
Love,
Talis
End of message.
I just want to say that...
Unfortunately we can't relate entirely to what you want to express. For one thing, your grammar is abhorrent. I know, I know. You're going to say that grammar hardly has any significance and that creativity is everything. Well, let me tell you one thing; WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU, and that is being 100 percent honest. I'm so surprised that Fiamme's "use of language APALLS" you. Ironically, yours make me want to give birth to 2,000 babies, all at the same time.
"the world is not yours to bet, if it were, I'd be living on mars, and we'd be ruled by cabbages."
Grr. This remark of yours is not only lame, but uncreative and embarrassing to boot. 'Nuff said.
You mentioned about Fiamme's crushing other people's dream... Tell you what, you made me lose my faith in humanity. Really. I can't believe YOU used the incomparable Shakespeare as an example. Where in suffering hell were you from? If you so much as read one of Shakespeare's plays, I think you'd have more or less an idea that his mispellings and grammar mistakes were RIGHT at the time. It was the 17th century, man. What do you expect, that language didn't evolve? It did, unfortunately for you. What was grammatically correct then, may no longer be correct now. Take for example JRR Tolkien. We do know that he lived up to the 20th century (and hence had sense of modern grammar), BUT we also know that he wrote sonnets IN THE MANNER of Shakespeare. Now, if you were looking closely you'd notice that grammatical errors were repeatedly committed in those works. The point? I already told you, he was using Shakespeare style. What about his novels? They were correct in a contemporary sense.
You see, both writers were following an order in the language. There has to be a way to organize their works, otherwise it would've made them lingusitic hooligans. In comparison, the grammars of the people you defend (most notably yourself) cannot in any way, in any style, be considered correct or decent. They write like ducks, webbed fingers and all.
I can't begin to decribe how disgusted I am by these words: "If everyone followed grammar as closely and to-the-point as yourself, popular writers such as Shakespeare would never become writers! "
How come you talk about things you don't know, and try to sound on authority? Please, stop making a retard out of yourself. Did you really think popular writers don't care about grammar? Hell, the writers you spoke of MADE grammar! Our notions of correct grammar are based on their works and guess what, they follow only one grammatical pattern. Why do we think that sentences such as "similar to latin in it's use apparently" (courtesy of you) and "you lovely darling who's use of the english language apalls me" are WRONG? I'll tell you why; because Charles Dickens and EM Forster and Virginia Woolf and just about every good writer DO NOT use "IT'S" when it should've been "ITS" and certainly DO NOT use "WHO'S" when they should've used "WHOSE" instead. And they don't spell "APPALL" as "APALL". Were you a Brit, you could've used "APPAL", but you didn't for some horrible reasons.
Also, I would like to point out the high demands for editors. If we don't need correct grammar, sentence structure et cetera, then pray tell the reasons why editors exist and even more so, why their salaries basically skyrocket? Please don't pull the "because the whole world is dumb for putting so much importance on grammar" crap. That would be so dumb, and minor.
So you think Iliad and Tales of Genji are packed with grammatical errors? Frankly I'm beginning to have the icky idea that you only pretend to have read both. Even if both works were originally, hypothetically stained with grammatical errors, it is undeniable that people over the years have made a point of correcting them. Why? Well, let's put it this way; they like correct grammar better than retarded grammar, unlike you. Plus, I thought Lady Murasaki, purportedly the genius behind the amorous Tale of Genji was Japanese. Are you suggesting that Japanese people don't care about grammar? You insult my intelligence.
Lastly, I just want to say that FUCK this dumb statement: "See what your "obsession" has brought to light? Grammar has only a minor role in any language, especially in language arts. You cannot be grammatically correct, and creative, at the same time."
I've been spending two and a half years in my school's Creative Writing org. Do you know that each time a member passes a poem, or any work for that matter, that work is meticulously read by ALL OTHER MEMBERS (38 of them, the 5 moderators excepted) for 1) Questionable theme/idea; 2) Grammar and 3) Structure. Why do that? Because we are being honed to manage coherent ideas, correct grammar and structure all at once; our mentors think that, oh yeah, it's possible to have good grammar and creative mind at the same time. Otherwise, they would've scrathed it off the curriculum, like, 27 years ago. But ever since the org had been founded, same rules on criticisms and analyses are SIMILAR.
You think creative writers such as Haruki Murakami, Nick Hornby, Neil Gaiman et al AREN'T good in grammar? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Say that again, please? I'm not going to deny that you offended me with that statement; usually, I just laugh off people's stupidity, but yours is so SPECIAL and needs all the tuning it gets. Screw you.
"Creativity is freedom, rules are a cage."
What are you, an anarchist? You don't want rules, then go back to Stone Age. Your argument is flawed, loopholed and hasn't a single smart thought to it. Blimey, there were Clan rules in the Stone Age; I'll say, go back to Jurassic era, you dinosaur. I don't remember saying anything AGAINST creativity. In fact, in my and Fiamme's flames, we emphasize and underscore not only the writer's lack in grammar, BUT in ideas. Gosh, are you dyslexic or what? Wherefore would we criticize their UNORIGINAL MARY SUE CRAP? A word to the wise, go research about the things you say and STOP bullshitting.
PS. "If there were rules to painting, such works as The Last Supper and Madonna of the Rocks would never have been done! Details are nice, but obsession with details and correctness are completely... useless."
Tell me what the point of this sentence is? Are you just showing off how well-versed you are in arts? P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.
Painting is THIS far from writing. Painting is an art that requires VISUAL EXPRESSION. There are NO rules in painting, only classifications, on whether or not it's impressionism, surrealism et cetera. While like writing, it is open for criticisms, it is not true that PAINTING has to be this or that, i.e., your painting teacher doesn't tell you that your landscape painting has to be colorful, full of clouds, flowers, blah blah blah. It's essentially up to the painter. In writing, on the other hand, your teacher TELLS you to maintain correct grammar, it's an obligation, not a VIRTUE. It doesn't even need saying. Jeez, you are one dumb cow.
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Fuck, dude. This is WAY hilarious. Painting and writing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Bet, I'm going to link this to my blog one of these days, and thank my god that there are people less smart than me.
I'm still incredulous that she suggested that Creativity and Correct Grammar (not sure why I'm capitalizing) are mutually exclusive. I've known a lot of people, personally or otherwise, who are unfortunately good at both. In fact, the number of people in fan fiction.net that are creative and grammatically gifted is almost countless. Some are even as young as 13. Don't know where Talis is from, really.
Thanks for the update.
1:16 AM
Now here's a new client.
Maybe she can't string words together that sum up to something that is coherent, structurally acceptable and creative; one of these has to be missing, must be beyond her grasps. Dumb people can get really arrogant especially when challenged.
And what did she say about careful attention to details being useless? Perhaps her brains ache so much when faced with something more intricate than the letter 'O'. Perhaps. Or I can say that Michelangelo's Pieta leaves only a minute of post impression when one sees it.
6:58 AM
..... ~_~
This tops it. OK, can we even find somebody dumber than this? Really? I'm just... wow..... can anyone find somebody dumber than this?
Their dynamic is like watching a game of the William's sisters, only they're complete retards.
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God is dead. - Nietzsche
Nietzsche is dead. - God
10:28 PM
Pao! How's life treating you?
3:41 AM
Talis,
I don't know who you are, though I'm certain I'd be the last person to care. Because people possessing a mind like yours (if you have one, that is) should be forgotten by humanity, because you're a disgrace to human reason. For your convenience, I'm going to list my views on your opinion, because I bet that if I interlace words successively you might retort with a retarded reply.
1. Syntax is an important element to convey something if the method you prefer is language.
1.1 The "language arts" (as you've put it, not quite sure what you're referring) employs stylized and organized methods of conveying something especially in writing.
1.2 If I were to write 'dadada da dadada dadada' and boisterously say it's my creativity without consideration for sentence structure and grammar, no one will be able to even contextualize it for them to understand it. Oh yeah, you would.
2. Your "arguments" are too retarded to be even called arguments.
2.1 Before making any proposition through analogy, make sure to not commit 'false analogy'. In informal logic, it pertains to an illogical way of equating things to give a claim validity, and/or putting context (hence soundness) to a claim and juxtaposing it with another to give it a warrant. 2.2 As bold as your "points" are, Shakespeare et al and grammar are separate claims residing entirely on separate grounds. Tales of Genji et al follow their own rules of language, and that it's Japanese. How would Tales of Genji be even critically acclaimed in the first place if it's too incoherent in its own language?
2.3 Your first point is... uh, what point? If it is a "backing" (in practical philosophical reasoning, try reading, it'd be great help), it would completely lose its validity to support your succeeding premises. Not only is its validity questionable (very, actually), but judging from your post you obscure everything you want to say. Is it just your style of writing, or am I overestimating you?
Anyway.
You don't even know dreams and hope and fucking aspirations. You don't even know how you'd characterize happiness. You're even imposing on us what we should tolerate and what we shouldn't do. Well, right back at you (although I'd prefer to be ruled by cabbages than you).
P.S.
Bet, I've started reviewing the SD fandom fics with the 'bluesummers' name. The category's just hopeless. Night Strider, I'm waiting for the next chapter for the latest you've uploaded in SD. ^_^
5:20 AM
ivy, does that mean there's a new customer?! Come on, link it here. Life's a fucking bore without the dumb clients who more than make our day. Lately, there have been too many unsightly, ungodly shit in the category I couldn't bring myself to open my eyes for fear of contamination.
But that was before. I've totally given up on SD, that's true, but if something fun is available, why back out, right?
9:32 AM
Hello dear friends,
I've been missing out on a lot lately. I hope this one works out though I have the feeling that Talis won't show up, talk about cowards. But I have to thank her because at the time I was reading this entry I was in desperate need to loose my bowels, I really did try everything; dairy products, pineapple, citric acid and even crap itself but nothing seemed to work! So there I was, robbed of all hope of cleansing my intestines and just sat in front of my computer.
Let me expand, oh never mind. But the best part was when she said this: 'If everyone followed grammar as closely and to-the-point as yourself, popular writers such as Shakespeare would never become writers'
Really! I just felt my organs grinding on each other so I just ran into the toilet. You guys wouldn't believe the racket i was making in the toilet, I think the neighbors were throwing paper cups at my house. But it was such a relief.
I therefore conclude that morons do play important roles in this world. And now hera I am, free of bowels and all clean.
10:15 AM
bet,
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3232214/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3207603/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3188625/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3154470/1/
i haven't checked out the others, i'm still on the search mode; take a peek and laugh at the hilarity of it all. ^_^
8:48 AM
Yippee, I got a rise out of someone~
It's so much fun pissing people off, wrong person, but at least my message got to someone ^^.
Too bad Fiamme-chan didn't get my message, but thanks Bet You Love That.
I meant to post earlier, forgot about Fiamme's blog, for those thinking I'm a coward. I'm not, just really forgetful.
That's all for now, I need to sleep, practise trombone for band, and finish up my homework, tata for now.
Talis
PS. BYLT, I love cows, they're really cute. And never underestimate the intelligence of farm animals ^^. Especially sheep, I'm a sheep.
9:19 PM
Yes, indeed, a very intellectual comment from Talis, thank you for your appearance, perhaps your writing can also cure my constipation.
To everyone else, I've been flaming a lot lately, check out the fics from these bimbos (a clasical understatement if you ask me) snow-maiden13, Selene13, 0o0 Blue Angel 0o0, and Amaya21inluvRukawa. I believe there are still hundreds of them out there so the feast is on.
9:06 AM
You mean you are a FF flamer too? Ye gods above, all of them.
I ran out of tiem to address you all last night, I almost fell asleep, so now I shall.
To: The Pain that Drive The Idiot Away
Blogger doesn't appear to like capitals, so I added some for you. It's why people should learn HTML.
I'm 15, I'll be 16 in a few months. I'm from the other half of the world, in a small country known as Canada. I live in a small city dwarfed by a larger one. It's why I speak both english and french too.
I do have respect for grammar, it's been drilled into my mind from all my years of french class, and english. Creativity and Grammar are not mutually exclusive, but they're not that close. I was really just trying to piss off someone, and it didn't work, (though I just found out why~).
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To: Be that as it may, you will never be
No one's client.
And I'm a fan of the Pieta. I stumbled across for an art project and fell in lvoe with the great amount of detail Michelangelo put into it. I'm an aetheist, so it held no great religion outburst for me, but it's obvious it does for many, including the artist.
I hate the letter O. I prefer L, or A, they're pretty.
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To: Ivybluesummers
Hi Ivy, I don't care about who you are either, it's a mutual... well I don't know, but it's sure mutual.
I gave up on humanity after Canada went to war, my hopes include being worshipped by baboons, and sheep, both very intelligent animals. Unlike humans.
Syntax owns. I like the word too. I have great respect for Princess Semi-colon (if you can, refer to Elements of English 10, a textbook published for the Ontario Education system). Without periods, colons, commas, and a variety of other fascinating scibbles on the page, I would make no sense, so I adore Syntax to no end.
Retard is a bad word. Find a thesaurus.
About dreams, I know plenty. I even have a blog about dreams, two in fact. Aspirations are most definitely there, flamers just don't enjoy them. Happiness is undefineable, but I, like everyone sure try hard. I like to call it the ability to smile, something you probably haven't done in a while. I don't think you make people smile either. Turn that frown upside down, love.
PS. I really love it when people mention who their flaming. Because then I can find them, and help them, because flamers are poison for the mind. I like to be the antidote.
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To: Dorian Ghey
Organs grinding against each other? Take pepto bismol and call a doctor, love, that's got to be serious.
That would make a great commercial XD. I have visions.
I hate being called a coward, hurts my feelings. I'm not a coward, just incredibly bored out of my igloo, (I am Canadian after all).
Besides, my comment on Shakespeare was uninspired, I don't like Shakespeare, his work is so... boring. I'm going to get flamed for that one, aren't I? But he is! I've read two plays, endured having to speak them, having to watch the movies (which sucked), and endure two teachers explain how brilliant and fantastic he was. No writer should get that much credit. I have yet to find a reason to enjoy his work.
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That's all, maybe I'll explain some more on my blog... maybe not, I already spoke about flamers, but I need to rpeat, since people suck.
Oh ye gods, I ask again for all of you, stop making people who might just be able to do something productive hurt others. Flamers are people who need a lot of help. Help them.
Love,
Talis
Ps. My blog is located at http://adream.kyonkichi.com, my personal website. Don't tread elsewhere, I do have people who visit there not just for writing. And they don't care about you.
3:41 PM
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8:12 PM
I hate rules. Anarchy would be a nice change. Imagine being able to walk out your door, see cats screaming from the trees, and people being shot for having the wrong opinion.
You don't need to be perfect to be a success or a genius. Shoot me for making a comparison between two different things (because, according to everyone here, it's a crime), but Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music, yet he was still an amazing guitarist. Talis may not be interested in using perfect grammar when making a comment on someone's blog, but she is still very smart.
Though you all must be fat losers at school if you spend all your time reading bad stories and whining about them. If the story sucks don't waste your time reading it. Flamers are stupid, eh? Sitting at home behind their computers, feeling so smart because they know these stupid little details about English. Get a life outside of your textbook.
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Look I drew your glasses and eyes. They should be thicker and have tape on them, though. Acne problems too, right? And pocket protectors. Do the jocks pick on you and make you cry? Or are you too superior a being to let those idiots bother you?
Damn I make such a bad argument. I'm sad now because fags are going to make fun of me in their geeky talk. :(
8:24 PM
Talis, why so defensive? You've been talking nonsense and you're unlucky because the cool lot as intelligent as Bet and his troops have found you. Why don't you stop horsing around because the sense you've made is about to match a a cow that's suffering from alzheimer.
I hate rules. Anarchy would be a nice change. Imagine being able to walk out your door, see cats screaming from the trees, and people being shot for having the wrong opinion.
Change? You can walk out of your door, you can see cats screaming from the trees (ever seen firemen who had to bring them down from the tree branches?), and people do get shot for having the wrong opinion (try perusing the John Lennon's autobiography, try reading history books, you stroke of genius). So what change are you talking about, eh?
You don't need to be perfect to be a success or a genius. Shoot me for making a comparison between two different things (because, according to everyone here, it's a crime), but Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music, yet he was still an amazing guitarist. Talis may not be interested in using perfect grammar when making a comment on someone's blog, but she is still very smart.
Jimi Hendrix was a genius? Then Britney had won Grammy! Have you ever heard of autodidact? Music is something you don't necessarily have to theoretically learn to be skilful in. And Talis doesn't just hate to use perfect grammar, she doesn't even know basic grammar! Haha! Judging from her arguments, I think she's intelligent, yeah, but an intelligent cow (see, if you were put amongst cows that were bred for milk and meat, you'd be most intelligent, yeah, I heartily agree 8D)
Though you all must be fat losers at school if you spend all your time reading bad stories and whining about them. If the story sucks don't waste your time reading it. Flamers are stupid, eh? Sitting at home behind their computers, feeling so smart because they know these stupid little details about English. Get a life outside of your textbook.
Hehe. And what that makes you? A fat loser who sits at home behind computers, feeling so insecure because of the flames you receive? We've been there, baby. Losers like you tell us to get lives because all you can do is to whine how mean flamers can get because you soooo love the crap we're flaming. And as if that's not enough, you had to justify grammar incapacity by saying Shakespeare's works were't grammatically correct. Wow. It's like saying that all the shit we've been roasting are equal to his godly works. Haha. Why don't you stop horsing around for a change, eh? Your attempt at attention seeking is rather puke-able. You're stupid, that's my conclusion. Try to prove to me otherwise, I can use a cure for constipation too. 8D
Look I drew your glasses and eyes. They should be thicker and have tape on them, though. Acne problems too, right? And pocket protectors. Do the jocks pick on you and make you cry? Or are you too superior a being to let those idiots bother you?
Damn I make such a bad argument. I'm sad now because fags are going to make fun of me in their geeky talk. :(
Haha. Even the crickets of Mississippi Forest make more sense than you. Hahaha! How quickly have you assumed us as goths? We are actually flattered since geekiness are often linked to smartness, to textbooks and we do glow with the aura of smartness, eh? Admit, you are intimidated of our wits. We actually got bored of the real-life losers and decided to pick on Internet wankers. So, dare you show us your most secret place? 8D
Bet rules.
9:31 PM
Samm, shouldn't you be so ashamed of yourself that you'd get ahead of us? If I had known you better, you're Talis in another dumb suit.
Can you, like, prove a thing of what you said? Fat losers? Hahaha. What a loser-ish way to get back at someone. I'm so glad that you're too offended by the way we offended Talis. If she's not you, then she must be the one whose ass gets licked by you. What a crime, licking somebody else's retard's behind. So what are you? A virgin who won't be screwed by 7th Avenue rapists because she's too fugly? Ooops. That's just that kind of thing you'd say.
"I hate rules. Anarchy would be a nice change. Imagine being able to walk out your door, see cats screaming from the trees, and people being shot for having the wrong opinion."
Trying to be cool around here? I'm so sorry, but I've met a lot of rebellious people, the ones that get as close to anarchists as possible, and they don't sound the least stupid as you. In fact they have reasons for abhorring rules, reasons that involve government mistreatments and discriminations and simply bad organization. By the way, if you look carefully enough, you'd realize that that's exactly the point I'm making. Retard.
"Though you all must be fat losers at school if you spend all your time reading bad stories and whining about them. If the story sucks don't waste your time reading it. Flamers are stupid, eh? Sitting at home behind their computers, feeling so smart because they know these stupid little details about English. Get a life outside of your textbook."
Again, you have no proof of this. You're presumption embarrasses the lowly way you think. We don't spend the rest of our time reading bad stories; in fact I haven't updated this blog in more than a month, which means that I could be busy with some other things. Prior posts have more than two weeks intervals too, your poinr? Proof? Argument? We call flaming occasional urges.
So you mentioned something about Jimi Hendrix, So? Is that another display of awe-inspiring knowledge? Sorry, but we won't say that just because you know that you've become officially smart. Talis is smart, or is Talis just you? Your friend or her boy-toy henchman. Pathetic. Having to beg somebody else to protect you. If she's really as smart as you claim, why is she such an attention whore? Please tell her we don't care if she fell asleep last night. Nobody's going to award her with Cutest Girl Teen Award, you know, for sleeping.
As for getting a life out of my textbook... wow... can you get any lamer than that? Perhaps you want to know about the term papers I've been writing right now? Or my coed football team? Or better yet, my trip to New York in December? Oh sheesh. I'm talking just the way our new selebrity Talis would talk; saying lovely things about her crappy self. Weak.
"Look I drew your glasses and eyes. They should be thicker and have tape on them, though. Acne problems too, right? And pocket protectors. Do the jocks pick on you and make you cry? Or are you too superior a being to let those idiots bother you?"
Yeah, yeah. Accurate self-description and yet, how fucking weak. I ask you now to argue within the context. Nobody's interested in anyone's life outside this blog. Talis is being such an attention-whore for saying things about her uninteresting self. So what if she fell asleep, does nobody else fall asleep? Is that so cute and unique now that people should be dropping at her feet to praise her?
This may not interest you, but more than eleven people have called me a jock.
Geeky talk? Where's the geeky talk? You're the one who can't argue correctly. You don't defend yourself from our fires; you just say things we can't be any less interested about. Okay, stop that now. We know you're trying to look cute, so you're cute. You got us pinned in the corner, coercing us to say how cute you are. How are you now, cutie pie Talis?
Next time, try to make sure if Talis defended herself well in my intelligent post above. Look at the shit she responded with. Isn't that enough to diagnose her with chronic apahasia?
10:04 PM
"Besides, my comment on Shakespeare was uninspired, I don't like Shakespeare, his work is so... boring. I'm going to get flamed for that one, aren't I? But he is! I've read two plays, endured having to speak them, having to watch the movies (which sucked), and endure two teachers explain how brilliant and fantastic he was. No writer should get that much credit. I have yet to find a reason to enjoy his work."
You are bold as to make these accusations if you had read only two plays (only two, which is humiliating considering that at 12, sixth grade, American curriculum already starts with Shakespeare) of Shakespeare. You have no right to judge simply on that meager authority. Boring? I thought that they were fast-tracked, cliche, but fast moving. Now I know that you're a retard who doesn't know crap of what she's saying. For the record, I've read more than twelve. Yeah, I know what ou're going to say about that. You'll say I'm a geek. No... I just listen to my teachers because I won't settle for anything less than a B. Incidentally, I find Shakespeare an awesome prototype and I understand that in the 7th century, his works are not a bore. Again, you fail to realize that literary works do evolve. What a pity.
10:11 PM
"Ps. My blog is located at http://adream.kyonkichi.com, my personal website. Don't tread elsewhere, I do have people who visit there not just for writing. And they don't care about you."
So what if those people don't care about us? Does George Clooney care about us? Does Jay Leno? David Letterman? Do I care about you? Do we care about them? What are we supposed to tell them, that you're pulling your tail over here just so we could say that you're cutie smart? Please. Why the hell did you put your blog address there? Do you think we'd bother correcting your abysmal grammar there? Excuse me, but I do belive you are hopeless.
Some people just can't get around to knowing that we are NOT interested in her personals... pathetic.
10:21 PM
Samm, we've made it clear before; we don't buy shit like 'if you think it sucks then don't read it'. You sound very much like those brats who can’t accept criticisms. I flame ‘soapish’ and moronic fics for fun and I don’t care if it makes the writer cry.
And stop throwing crap like 'Though you all must be fat losers at school if you spend all your time reading bad stories and whining about them' and 'Get a life outside of your textbook' and 'Do the jocks pick on you and make you cry?' they're lame and way outside the argument. They're retarded. If you can correctly recite ABC then this pathetic attempt to insult is way too immature.
And stop praising Talis saying that she's all smart; you're making it too obvious that you're the same person. I’m gonna pretend that I didn’t notice that though.
First, I didn't nitpick the way she comments on other people's blog, I even ignored the way she spelled ‘appall’ and I’m also gonna ignore the fact that she used ‘religion’ instead of ‘religious’ after the word ‘outburst’ because I don’t want to sound like a nitpicker. But the fact that she made grammar and syntax seem to play a small role in language is just plain moronic, not to mention how she compared it to visual arts which shows strong evidence about how little she knows about the general art (that includes literature, philosophy and humanities). If you wish to appear intelligible enough to be allowed to disregard grammar, make sure that your reasoning is not as lame and empty as suggesting Shakespeare was a linguistic hooligan and comparing language syntax with paintings.
Yes, you don’t need to be perfect to be credited as a genius but her arguments are way below mortally flawed, if there’s even something worse than that. Grammar and syntax are NOT ‘stupid little details’ as you put it, they’re more like BASIC skills that you have to master before you reach 3rd grade and hopefully, at that stage, you need not have to look at your textbook while speaking the language. So does your statement about getting a life outside the textbook state that you still look up those grammar books just to construct sentences that are grammatically perfect? Because we happened to have donated our textbooks long before now. I must say that you are pitiable. If it so happened that you haven’t gotten around to using these skills correctly without even trying after 5th or 6th grade then that must mean that you are one dumb cow, so sorry for you.
To Talis, what difference does it make if your comment about Shakespeare was uninspired? You could’ve simply admitted that old English is very different from the modern one and that you were wrong for saying that he committed grammatical mistakes. And you say that no writer deserves that much credit because his works are boring? I do admit that ‘As You Like It’ ‘Much Ado About Nothing’ and ‘The Merchant of Venice’ are very generic and they share a lot of parallelisms but if you hadn’t noticed, not everyone says that Shakespeare was very capable of creating genius story lines but he was credited more often for his use of language (syntax, grammar, vocabulary and artistry in sentence construction). So we can assume here that he was not as creative as he was adept at the command of language. So can we all now agree that he is glorified for his linguistic skills and not for creativity? Now, you tell me how grammar happened to be murdered by hooligans and is now but a little character in this play we love to call ‘writing’.
10:25 PM
Geez I don’t even want to start making my point here. I’ll do it anyway. When I mentioned the Pieta, I didn’t care if it makes any religion-related effects on you; I was also talking about the craftsmanship, because you were bold enough to state that careful attention to details can be useless. And using that as an example was even too corny for me but I did it anyway to make my point. Didn’t know you were that slow. It doesn’t make much of a difference since you used the virgin of the rocks as an example (which made no sense at all because both versions are very rich in detail and are both priceless, in complete lack of coherence with your previous statements about details) and I used a marble sculpture, same sense if you ask me.
In any case, if there were even rules in painting, the last supper and virgin of the rocks would merit a perfect score for splendor in all their aspects, interpretation of divine properties and technicalities such as proportions, human physiques, draperies and lucidness in comparison with other great masters at that time like Giotto and Boticelli. Although the last supper would fall behind in terms of life span because it’s fresco. And you tell us that they couldn’t have existed? PUHLEEEEEEEZ.
Sorry about the letter ‘O’, didn’t expect you’ve mastered that one, here’s something more complicated for you to stare at; the letter ‘A’.
11:16 PM
Capitalizing is my way of emphasis. If you're implying that I'm ignorant when it comes to HTML, let me inform you that I arrange my blog designs ON MY OWN. In fact, my current template is my 17th version. And yes, I did the HTML from scratch.
I know now that you're the kind of creature that embarrasses herself by bad mouthing people on so little basis. Trust me, you're going to find it hard to find your way to the world that way. In a nutshell. Don't make assumptions beyond what you see because that's really immature and stupid.
Also, I would have to request you to answer our questions coherently, not in a way that'd lead us to think that you can't rationalize. You're the one who said that Shakespeare was a great writer.And if my thoughts were right, you suggested that his grammar was incorrect and it was only because through his stories that he became a literary god. Now, I think you metioned in one of your replies that Shakespeare is boring and you didn't enjoy reading his works, assuming you read one at all. That said a lot. In fact, it said that you're contradicting yourself. Shakespeare couldn't spell (you said); Shakespeare's works are boring (you said). So what's his redeeming feature? What, in your lofty opinion makes him great if not for his grammar and stories/plays?
As for me, I love his verbal wittiness, almost like Wilde...
1:49 AM
oops my bad. that should be 'before' before 'outburst'
10:08 AM
): oh no you figured me out. Yes, of course, I'm Talis, it's sooooo obvious. I should have known you'd figure it out. Damn, I wish I was as smart as you.
It's true!! I love those stories! Those writers are my idols, I want to be JUST like them. And people flaming my stories like those makes me cry.
All right, you want me to be serious. First, let me say this: I do believe grammar is important, and when it's horribly incorrect, I do get annoyed. I'd also like to clear up a few things: I am not Talis (just a bored friend), I think those stories are stupid and that the writers have no future in literature, and anyone who cries just because someone said something bad about them is a pussy and should be shot.
If there's any point Talis was actually trying to make, it was that sticking to exactly what everyone else says is right only holds back natural evolution. The reason things are the way they are now is because someone along the way decided to do something differently, which eventually became generally accepted as correct. Who's to say it won't happen again? If those writers made grammar what it is, than new ones will also make grammar what it will be. After all, there were grammar rules at those times that those authors must have broken, if they were to create today's grammar like was said somewhere here.
Anyway, I'm done. I need to go wipe my eyes because you made me cry. ):
6:56 PM
Ah, what an outburst of loving and kind remarks, I feel loved.
First up, my lovely friend Sam. She is not me, in fact, she is someone completely different, (I know you're surprised). She is one of my close friends however. We're in a few of the same classes at our local high school, but I'm on the swim team and she's in rugby. Sam is very intelligent and loves Jimi Hendrix, and every other guitar virtuoso from the 60's and beyond ^^. I like Jimi Hendrix too. If you want another difference between us, she doesn't like anime, I do. One more? I have straight hair, she has curly hair, get the point?
I was sort of planning a neloquent, awesome rebuttal, but after watching Shark, I decided it was pretty dumb. The guy who plays Shark is a god ^^, very intelligent and should be a leader of some kind.
Flamers suck. You, being flamers, suck. Flamers, when I see them, make me wonder what they think when they insult people for little to no reason. So I thought of something.
"I AM A FLAMER, HOLIER-THAN-THOU, EXTREMIST GRAMMAR LOVER WHO WOULD GLADLY RAPE SHAKESPEARE HE IS GOD. ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE MY GOD-LIKE WIT AND INTELLIGENCE ARE IDIOTS WHO HAVE SMALL BRAINS AND DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH! I LIKE INSULTING LITTLE GIRLS WHO WRITE FOR THE FUN OF IT AND REALLY LIKE IT, I LIKE MAKING THEM CRY!"
I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's close. Oh, forgot something:
"I EAT BABIES FOR ALL 10 MEALS OF THE DAY!"
There we go. I don't think anyone other than flamers like them. Flamers love each other, as proven by this blog/site thingy. They group together. Similar to popular people, and cold penguins, and cold popular people.
As Sam said, faces out of textbooks boys and girls, time to face reality. No one likes a flamer, not one bit. It's why I like to bug them, distract them from insulting future writers and making little girls who only want to write about the adventures of her character and Inu-Yasha cry.
I was a fan fic writer, back when I was really young, younger than I am now. I have two Mary Sues. One was named Trace. Well, her first name was Daylin, but most of the story was told as her being Trace. She was powerful, she wasw a princess, though she didn't want to be, she had a gundam, (gundam wing ff), and she fell in love with Duo. Then there was my inu-yasha character, I think I called her Blue, can't remember. She didn't fall in love with Inu-Yasha, but she was a demon ^^. Everyone has a story, we just have different ways of telling it.
Flamers are smart, you all are very intelligent. Sadly, they waste it on hurting other people. Yeah, people will be unkind, but even critics are liberal. They don't attack kids. That's what you do. It's well known most fan fic writers these days are little kids, who just want to tell stories, and you flame them, and it makes them not want to write anymore.
Now you will laugh at me. You'll think "What an idiot, who does she think she is? She's dumb, how can I insult her?".
I don't care. I've been insulted a lot in my life. Almost everyday. I live with it.
Then you'll analyze this comment, and pick out every mistake.
I don't care again. I'm partially dyslexic, I make mistakes all the time. I spend a lot of time back spacing. I live with it. As long as I make sense.
Which you will say I won't.
But I surrender, you're so smart, I know you want me to say that. I was wrong, grammar rocks and you are gods. Shakespeare was the father of modern language and I've never read the Tales of Genji. Music and Art have no place in literature and I'm just a stupid high school band who hasn't gone to univeristy like the rest of you.
At least I'm happy. At least I don't get attacked by the people I comment on. At least people value my opinion.
That's all I have to say.
8:22 PM
Ah, what an outburst of loving and kind remarks, I feel loved.
There, your pitiable attempt at attention-seeking again, pretending as though the things we've said didn't hurt you. I'm really beginning to pity you now, really.
First up, my lovely friend Sam. She is not me, in fact, she is someone completely different, (I know you're surprised). She is one of my close friends however. We're in a few of the same classes at our local high school, but I'm on the swim team and she's in rugby. Sam is very intelligent and loves Jimi Hendrix, and every other guitar virtuoso from the 60's and beyond ^^. I like Jimi Hendrix too. If you want another difference between us, she doesn't like anime, I do. One more? I have straight hair, she has curly hair, get the point?
Well, the thing is, we don't really care if you liked Jimi Hendrix. We don't care if Samm liked him too. We're supposed to believe you when you said you were physically different from Samm? Haha. You have no way of proving that, and this is the fucking Internet. The way the two of you reason your points is pretty much the same, the immature comebacks, and the baseless presumptions, they're so similar you two might as well be clones. Haha.
I was sort of planning a neloquent, awesome rebuttal, but after watching Shark, I decided it was pretty dumb. The guy who plays Shark is a god ^^, very intelligent and should be a leader of some kind.
Well, though you've planned anything eloquent I doubt that your mind could actually retort with something eloquent and awesome because from your arguments, I can only deduce you as an idiot. You should know that we don't care if you've just watched Shark or if you think the guy who plays shark is a genius. So stating them just for the sake of stating them when they are irrelevant to your first statement shows your lack of coherence. And you were the one who had the audacity to say Shakespeare's works as boring. Maybe you should try paying attention to your writing before you whine about how meticulous flamers are with their attention to details? You can't even put in composed ideas and coherence arguments, and that shows how retarded you are. Narcissistic, aren't you? Unfoundedly narcissistic, since you compared the delusional fan fiction writers we flamed to Shakespeare. Haha. Shakespeare!
Flamers suck. You, being flamers, suck. Flamers, when I see them, make me wonder what they think when they insult people for little to no reason. So I thought of something.
"I AM A FLAMER, HOLIER-THAN-THOU, EXTREMIST GRAMMAR LOVER WHO WOULD GLADLY RAPE SHAKESPEARE HE IS GOD. ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE MY GOD-LIKE WIT AND INTELLIGENCE ARE IDIOTS WHO HAVE SMALL BRAINS AND DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH! I LIKE INSULTING LITTLE GIRLS WHO WRITE FOR THE FUN OF IT AND REALLY LIKE IT, I LIKE MAKING THEM CRY!"
I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's close. Oh, forgot something:
"I EAT BABIES FOR ALL 10 MEALS OF THE DAY!"
There we go. I don't think anyone other than flamers like them. Flamers love each other, as proven by this blog/site thingy. They group together. Similar to popular people, and cold penguins, and cold popular people.
Oh, how lame and immature. Flamers suck! Hahahahaha! I suggest you to read back the previous 'wars' we've had against the other delusional bimbos and attention-whores in which we had stated our reasons because we just hate reiterating things and mentioning the same thing over an over to retards like you. And you just got carried away with your profile on flamers. Those are too corny to begin with, saying things like..tah! We eat babies? Only ducks come out with stuff like that. We are pretty honest, we say what we dislike bluntly and directly because we know urchins like you will misunderstand so effortlessly. Check out any flamer's profile in FFN and nobody writes profiles or flame in the manner you have written. So, nah, not close, you [sarcasm]prodigy[/sarcasm]! 8D First you assumed us as geeks and now you accuse us as popular_bullies? Hehe, I'd like to emphasize there are more depths to us than the groups you've mentioned.
As Sam said, faces out of textbooks boys and girls, time to face reality. No one likes a flamer, not one bit. It's why I like to bug them, distract them from insulting future writers and making little girls who only want to write about the adventures of her character and Inu-Yasha cry. How pitiful. 8D
I was a fan fic writer, back when I was really young, younger than I am now. I have two Mary Sues. One was named Trace. Well, her first name was Daylin, but most of the story was told as her being Trace. She was powerful, she wasw a princess, though she didn't want to be, she had a gundam, (gundam wing ff), and she fell in love with Duo. Then there was my inu-yasha character, I think I called her Blue, can't remember. She didn't fall in love with Inu-Yasha, but she was a demon ^^. Everyone has a story, we just have different ways of telling it.
Flamers are smart, you all are very intelligent. Sadly, they waste it on hurting other people. Yeah, people will be unkind, but even critics are liberal. They don't attack kids. That's what you do. It's well known most fan fic writers these days are little kids, who just want to tell stories, and you flame them, and it makes them not want to write anymore.
Well, we kinda know that you were a Suethor, that's why you were so defensive. The thing is we don't care if we flame kids because they can certainly do better than pollute the site with their childish fantasies about being Mary Sue by keeping the stories to themselves. Nobody cares about your sick fantasies, girl. So if you want to write them, keep them in your hard-disk and spare your delusions.
Now you will laugh at me. You'll think "What an idiot, who does she think she is? She's dumb, how can I insult her?".
I don't care. I've been insulted a lot in my life. Almost everyday. I live with it.
Then you'll analyze this comment, and pick out every mistake.
Hahaha. Actually, I am laughing. How couldn't I be, when you've just shown us how idiotic you are? 8D and do you think we care how many times you've been insulted? Since you are trying too much to seek attention, we think you are too pathetic to be corrected, so I don't think any of us wants to correct you. But we do, want poke fun at you, we do, we do.
I don't care again. I'm partially dyslexic, I make mistakes all the time. I spend a lot of time back spacing. I live with it. As long as I make sense.
Which you will say I won't.
But I surrender, you're so smart, I know you want me to say that. I was wrong, grammar rocks and you are gods. Shakespeare was the father of modern language and I've never read the Tales of Genji. Music and Art have no place in literature and I'm just a stupid high school band who hasn't gone to univeristy like the rest of you.
At least I'm happy. At least I don't get attacked by the people I comment on. At least people value my opinion.
That's all I have to say.
And you think we care that you don't care? Hahahhaah. You're bumbling idiotic things, you should've ruminated before saying things you might regret later on (like criticizing Shakespeare, for an instance) because you obviously don't have sufficient knowledge to do so. Your attempts at sounding witty are so pathetic, we still think you are suffering from chronic aphasia. I read your blog and you even said Iliad is not the best thing you've read. Having written that, I think you're so full of yourself and the only great writing you'll ever acknowledge is your own. Delusional smug. Stop bullshitting now, why don't you?
12:56 AM
People, I realize now that there is no point in knocking reason into Sam's and Talis' head. They're both losers, strongest evidence of which is the corny, undefended replies. It's not hard to suppose from either comment that being beaten around by school mates is a regular event of their everyday lives. Rather, let's pity these two. They sound like they haven't heard of humor all their pitiful lives. Plus, attempts to their insult fall flop, like the movie Open Season which is about as crappy as their lame comebacks. Really, even my six year old nephew would find their excuses too retarded for their age. I'm especially feeling embarrassed for Talis'weak remarks. In fact, I hope other people won't see their humiliating stunts.
4:43 AM
And oh, only Bet You Love That and Dorian are the flamers here. Again, you manifest your inclination towards retarded assumptions. I know what you're going to say next, that "WE SUCK".
Like, geez. Dumb flamers don't even say "you suck". Clearly, losers like you are the only ones capable of that. L.A.M.E.
4:46 AM
And what's the point, sam? It may be true that early literary geniuses started the trend but that doesn't necessarily mean that they were actually WRONG. And that change was generally accepted because it was something new, something artistic and offers delight to the senses. The grammatical errors and lame story lines of the stories we flame are like a gazillion miles away from whatever Shakespeare and the others introduced. And whatever language style they introduce, they did it CONSCIOUSLY to flaunt(for lack of a more discreet word)their skills, entertain readers and maybe, establish a new grammar pattern. These flamees, on the other hand, scatter their shit all over the internet with no intention of promoting good literature. Again, your point?
There's just no point relating them. And there is certainly NO way that these morons can trigger natural evolution, they only promote natural devolution so that we can all go back to being protozoans.
6:06 AM
Flamers like us don't suck, I'll tell you why.
What people do with their crap and how they use it to induce hemorrhoid is their own business. And when I say their own business, I mean in the sense that we may murder their crap and broadcast the act of mutilation where people can see it.
Yeah they love writing, so much that it overrides any concern about insulting other people’s intelligence and humiliating themselves.
I can look past ugly grammar; I’ve forgiven worse. But if story were enough and ambitious ideas didn’t need writing skills to back them up then they’d all be chewing grass right now and they’d be having people extracting milk from them thrice a day.
It’s simple, you post your crap for everyone to read and I ‘retaliate’ by flaming the oh-so stupid you.
I don’t flame for fun; I just want my opinions heard. My opinions, however, when it comes to stories are always right. If I say it sucks then it lands well below my passing mark. I don’t flame mediocre stories, I flame terrible ones. I’m not gonna be a hypocrite so I can boldly say that I don’t ask, beg nor do I expect these writers to improve. I often ignore abysmal fics because the writers of those stories are expectedly hopeless, that would’ve given me no challenge. And we certainly don’t flame to make geniuses out of us. We only become predators if these morons invite us to, if they retaliate arrogantly, that is, like Chaotic Deception, Kampasi, Daniel Salazar Malfoy, Chelating Compounds, KanonA, and the others.
6:51 AM
Sam and Talis,
Fight is over. Stop bluffing now. Your sarcasm sounds like something Down Syndrome kids would've thought of in a second notice. If you don't know anything, just say it. What's the harm? It's not like there's a requirement to be intelligent. Your only mistake is to spark up an argument with these people, who apparently know a lot more than both of you do. Just this: Would I say that I'm hotter than Lindsey Lohan if I look like Olive in that Popeye Show? No, in much the same manner that you don't call Bet You Love That et al stupid. If you can't make up an intelligent/witty quip to counter them, why persist? They'll just call you both losers, which you probably are but heck! Who wants to give further evidence of his/her retardation by saying the things you do? If you two are smart enough as you claim, you would just ignore them. Don't be losers.
7:04 AM
Fine, you win. I went into this argument without an exact opinion, anyway. The only reason I bothered was because your assumptions of Talis were completely wrong. I do have a question, though. What stories do you read? I'm not at all interested in reading fanfiction or little kid stories (as my grade five teacher said, all they can write is a friendship story, which isn't exactly the most stimulating thing), so I'm clueless as to the content of these stories. As I stated previously, though, if the stories really are as you describe, then they are horrible and the author has no future in writing (though I doubt they intend to write professionally). I'm not opposed to flamers; they've never personally bothered me. I've told people countless times that they're pussies if they start crying or get hurt just because someone said they can't do something when they start complaining about being flamed. Suck it up and move on.
I'm expecting to be told I'm lying and that I actually am hurt by everything here and now that I realize I've been defeated, I'm attempting to suck up. Oh, and also that I helped heal someone of their constipation (you're welcome, by the way).
If anyone feels the need to tell me I'm stupid or retarded, go ahead. It's not like I've graduated high school yet, so I can't be that smart. That and my new-found lack of interest in education (started about a month or so ago).
Yes, I give in, due in part to my knowing when I've been defeated and also the fact that I've lost interest in bothering anyway. I don't like to just disappear, however, as that is too immature even for me. It's important to give your closing thoughts, isn't it? Whatever, I'm done. Yeah I'll be back to read whatever is said in response to me because I'm that pathetic, but I won't say anymore. Have fun telling people they suck.
4:48 PM
BTS, this is all directed to you. I could give a flying fuck what anyone else said, but you are truly inhuman.
Have you ever spent five minutes with someone with downs syndrome? I think not. I once spent an entire afternoon with a girl almost 10 years older than me, but she had downs syndrome, so age was no matter. I spent an afternoon playing cards with her and some other friends.
It's not funny to even make a reference of that sort. It's low, it's sick, and you are truly unworthy of living if you think like that.
No one is sane, but I honestly think those with learning disabilies and other such disabilities are way better off than us. They dont' have to suffer idiots like you. People with downs syndrome are happy. They're some of the nicest people you'll ever meet because they don't care who you are. They don't care if you can read or write, or string a sentence together. They are some of them ost gifted people because they understand everything we don't, like how to be good.
Flamers, non-flamers, kids, writers, everyone is bad. Someone of us are considered to be worse than others. Flamers take enjoyment form patronizing and insulting people. I myself have a penchant for self-destruction, who cares, we're all evil.
I demand an apology. Not for me, for everyone. What you said was sick, utterly despicable, and you said it off hand like it was nothing. You are evil.
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Everyone else? I don't care. I could say, "Look who's calling the kettle black," but I hate that saying.
You'll probably insult my defense on Downs Syndrome. You may say I have downs syndrome, if so, you're all going to a very dark place, and I'll be more than happy to help you get there.
Honestly, I just don't like you becauseI have respect for people who try. You may say they don't try, but they do. They sat down and wrote a story, and maybe it wasn't the next Iliad, but it was an effort and they enjoyed it.
Call yourselves vituosos of languagei f you must, you're not. No one, in my opinion, masters language until they understnad it. Language is not about grammar, it never was. Grammar is a convience. It makes getting our ideas coherent. But you need no grammar to portray an idea, a feeling, or emotion. Language is the physical form of emotion, logic and brilliance, and you're abusing it to hurt people.
Music hasn't hurt anyone. It's made people cry, think, and maybe die, but it's never hurt anyone. Neither has language or art. It's just there for us to look at and learn from.
Read The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho, I dare you. IF you've read it, read it again. It's one of those books that makes you think! It's brilliant and shining and pure and it explains a lot of things. Books and language are supposed to be used like that, to explain, not to chastise!
That's what I think.
I'm not eloquent, I'm awkward. I'm dyslexic, I don't make sense and I never will. All I want to do is write a book and have it change someone, or a lot of people. I don't care, I jut want to write. Kids are liek that, they jsut want to write because it's fun, and you're stopping that.
I'm not coming back to comment again, like Sam. I'm not Sam. But I don't care anymore. Apathy. I'll maybe look at your comments, but I honestly don't care anymore, I know you'll look at this and laugh.
Talis
6:37 PM
Talis, don't be a mongoloid. Of course I've spent some time with mongoloid people like you. You think I don't know how they act? And please, don't pity them as though you're smarter than your lot 'cos you're not. OK?
So we are evil. What about this statement: "I hate rules..." What does that say?
You have no right to demand an apology. I don't believe in apologies when damage has been done. Plus, take back everything you said to fiamme because you're already contradicting yourself too much. But we won't offer our apologies to you. You don't deserve it.
Fuck you. You read Paulo Coehlo? No wonder you're so dumb. You shouldn't have said that. People around here read Nietzsche, Sartre, Dickens, Hardy and that guy who wrote Ulysses (what's his name, Bet?). If they read that, they'd roll on their sides with their assholes stuck up in the air. You're such a cliche, the book is such a cliche. You think my dumb 7th grade teacher didn't ask us to read that when we should have been tackling the complicated verbosity of the Bronte sisters? No, she made us read that fucking inspirational crap! That stupid shit about going back from where you came from blah blah blah. Now will you stop assuming? You trudged on the wrong subject; these people here are great readers. Forget about challenging them. If I were you I'd stop that literary bluff.
"Language is the physical form of emotion, logic and brilliance."
You moron. What do you mean by physical form? Is it palpable? Stop your bullshit. It is a form, right, but when has it been physical? And what about morons like you who vandalize the English by ignoring grammatical rules? Huh? Perhaps what you say is, we are being immoral. Language is simply a MEDIUM. It doesn't care whether or not you are being evil or saintly. Most evil are committed through language, not just through genocide, you know. Perhaps what you refer to is the damned religions that all say we're going to hell if we do this kind of crime. Really, you should go to jail for your shallow-mindedness.
"Grammar is a convience. It makes getting our ideas coherent."
Then that's the point, right? Bet's opening post said she had a difficult time understanding you due to your abysmal grammar. You're incoherent and inconsistent in your claims; maybe that has nothing to do with your bad grammar BUT did we say that grammar is the only thing that's wrong with you? No, what's worse than wrong with you is, you think like a mongoloid and you're not even one. What does that say, pray tell?
"But you need no grammar to portray an idea, a feeling, or emotion."
Don't give me crap about expression of ideas; in that field I know a lot more than you do. Did I say that it is only through correct grammar that we can express ideas? Hell, you can express a million of fucking ideas without speaking. What's your point here? Is your brain too miniscule to understand our case? These people attacked your grammar, they say it's bad, and then here you are preaching some shit about being nice to people. You can't get any point. Don't be a hypocrite. I thought atheist could do better than that.
"Books and language are supposed to be used like that, to explain, not to chastise"
If you've read enough, you would eat those words back, you shit. Have you read Anna Karenina, arguably the best novel in the world? It was very immoral. The heroine was chastised in the end. Have you read stuff from contemporary writers? D'you have any idea how much they swear like sailors; how mean they've portrayed their characters? No. You don't know anything. All you read is the conventional crap fed to you by other stupid people like you. You don't have any idea how vast the world is; you're too democratic, too pretentious. You think we should be all nice. Well, here's the bad news: There are and there will be people like us. The good thing is, we don't do it for money.
You're such a fucking hypocrite. If you reread your comment on fiamme's blog you'll know that you're almost doing the same thing. You fought fire with fire. Fiamme kept quiet which makes her a morally better person than you are. Now we get back at you and you tell us to stop. HWat kind of logic is that? What a loser. You asked for this. By now you have more or less the idea that we don't permit stupidity with arrogance here. Go back to fourth grade, you twerp.
Again, we don't just tell stupid wirters that they suck; We elaborate on it, we explain their mistakes and yes, we are mean in our enterprise. You think we're going to stop doing this? Don't be a moron. If you've read the whole contents of this blog, there are flamees here who apparently are better in defending themselves than you and we didn't stop until they shut up.
Stop bluffing already.
7:36 PM
What sort of stories do I read? For one sure thing I don't read shallow inspirational crap from Paulo Coelho. I did try to read the alchemist because it was getting to much hype but I had easily figured out that the fucking treasure was hidden right where he started his journey. IL read Tolstoy but I haven't touched Anna Karenina and War and Peace, I love Dostoyevski, Radzinsky, Gabriel Garcia, Umberto Eco (he's a modern day genius), Neil G, John Knowles, Hemmingway, Bronte sisters, Voltaire and many more.
If you're talking about the fics I'm digging I usually check fics in random, once in a while I'd stumble upon good ones from the diggler, kaesaku, HLY, mifune, hagane and silmarillion writers. Most of these are shounen-ai (with boy to boy implications).
As I've mentioned, the type of fics I flame are terrible, those that have a lot of similarities with The O.C., One Tree Hill, asian soaps and other teeny bopper shit.
11:20 PM
Samm,
Such a dramatic exit. Have fun being a loser.
Talis,
You just gave another reason to make fun of you. Next time, read Veronika Decides to Die so that you should, too.
5:54 AM
'Just dropped by.
Poor Talis. Geez, you're merely leaving now, my darling? Damn, and I was enjoying your display of intelligence. Heavens, your brilliance astounded me to absolutely no end!
Can't you really stay for a little while? I mean, I'm friggin' bored right now. I need myself a buffoon. I think you'll do.
6:13 AM
awww. Game's over already? Sucks.
10:05 PM
Samm, I'm sorry; I wasn't able to visit BYLT's blog the past few days because unlike you, I got a life. Talis, I am so enlightened; thanks for letting us savor the one thing that we'd most probably reminisce when there'd be no active clients in the blog (yes, you are a client) - yes, your idiocy. Nevertheless, I enjoy your replies; in fact, I'm taking more pleasure in this than the previous clients, i.e. Chelating Compounds, julietearjerky. I have definitely overestimated you.
Night Strider has figured it out already but I want to make emphasis on the contradiction; yes, it's the genius/boring Shakespeare. So what is he now? Somewhere in between? Boring but a genius? And it's too presumptuous to claim something about Shakespeare when your basis is warranted only by two works. Have you even considered the context? Or symbolism? Or are you simply turning the pages just so you can say you've read it?
Your comment on the "happiness" is really amusing. So, if I'd follow your premise, a smile embodies happiness? Haha. My frown's already upside down at the very onset you see. While I did understand what you meant when you commented on the happiness/dreams/aspirations, I was confused on what you've said regarding "syntax owns". Do you even know syntax in philosophy of language?
Your most illuminating feature that sets you apart from the other clients is your amazing ability to digress on your claims. I don't care about the wordplays you make just so you can make your comment longer. Your deviating assumptions make me more and more convinced that you got flies for braincells. You even make excuses to justify why you're not making sense, even making more presumptuous claims that it's making you more stupid. So what do you mean by physical form of emotion blah blah? So how will you portray those what you consider (I'm following on your premise) if it's not coherent? Oops. I forgot; you're not making sense at all.
If I'll put details to your you-hurt-other-people claim you'd probably retort with I-don't-make-sense-but-I-don't-care. But then you're leaving and I don't think you'd ever comment on me again. Or if you would, I'd probably get another dose of inconsistencies that you'd even say "All I want to do is write blah blah" when I asked what your warrant to the definition of language.
PS. I "flame" because the work is too fucked up to be even read by a kid; in fact, I flame because the site is infested with delusional/abysmal works. I even call the way I flame an antidote. Even calling you a cow is an insult to the animal/s, love. ^_^
8:55 PM
Ivy,
Well said! Talis doesn't only digress on her terms, she contradicts them so badly that I wish I was more understanding of people like her.
She's a scientific wonder.
6:27 AM
Talis did go away, but her stupid rants aren't over yet. Visit the site she had been flaunting; I assure you you'd have the laugh of your life.
12:29 AM
Cute. I always thought people became bored of personal attacks after a few minutes. Now I realize that grammer junkies have no need to stay in their own exclusive circles to insult people, because the world accepts them as their own. Or...maybe not.
1:11 PM
Josiy, josiy...
You sound like a coward. Hey, are you scared that we'll make fun of your grammAr too? You're not nearly reading because if you were, you'd know that grammar isn't the only thing we touch on. In fact, if you read Donkey Engine's comments, you'll wake up and tell yourself that you're a presumtuous, know-nothing, eat-shitting loser who lurks in other people's business hoping very much to be invited. And since nobody's interested you say things like what you just said.
Come on then. Shame us for being grammar gods. Note though that grammar are a lot less than what we concern ourselves about. Take your friend Talis for instance.
9:02 PM
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