the art of master-baiting
I love it when I get swift responses. It makes me think that all is well and swell with the world.
I have to admit that this is boring but hey, it's better than nothing. I went on a rampage the other day to see if there are still those who'd act graciously once they got the ring from me.
Bingo. We have two customers on the line.
Author: Aiko of the Akatsuki
Title of story: My Pain is Yours
Summary: Two kunoichi fall prey to the Akatsuki and each finds themselves seduced by different men; but their story is the same: she fell in love with him, he her. However, each seems to have their own secrets... Hidan/OC, Itachi/OC, Pain/Konan-Expect LEMONS!
My rating: S-class shit.
My flame: HAHAHA.
This flame actually sounds like any other flame I've sent to those delusional enough to write about the Mary Sue they want to be, the Mary Sue who would inexplicably fall from the sky and straight to the world of Naruto, and be the object of love of those who cannot be easily motivated to love.
You are so original. Has anyone bothered telling you that? You are. You're so expert at twisting characters out of character that I'm starting to believe you can be offered a membership at the Akatsuki org. Your specialty would be something like melting hearts or something. Or wait, don't tell me you've thought of that already? Sh!t. Why do you keep getting good ideas before I do? Don't you know that I'm the queen of all Mary Sues by birth?
Okay, enough. Your characterizations are so weak and cliched and I don't find anything in this that's remotely tolerable. It's just bad. You made everything so contrived and convenient for your pairings to come together. Ever heard of conflicts? Real ones? Convincing ones? I doubt I you even sat long enough to sip a coffee on it or something.
Her response: Ah, a flamer eh? How kindly of you to stop by and grace us with your
presence, although I must ask, were you being sarcastic? Attempting to piece
together the puzzle you've left for me has been quite a little project, no?
Beginning of course at the start of your review, you state that, "This flame
actually sounds like any other flame I've sent to those delusional enough to
write about the Mary Sue they want to be, the Mary Sue who would inexplicably
fall from the sky and straight to the world of Naruto, and be the object of
love of those who cannot be easily motivated to love".
Itachi and Hidan can quite easily be 'motivated', if you prefer to deploy
that term, to love in my opinion. Not only that, but this is FanFiction for
Jashin's sake my darling; anything can happen.
I mean, I could've easily gone and wrote about what happened in my OC's
pasts, but that is time consuming and would ruin the plot twists I have laid
out in my story already.
My response again:
Nope, I'm not being sarcastic. Whenever I pull on that stunt I have to accustom myself to expecting that people won't get it right away or in some cases, at all. That's why I gave up on sarcasm a long time ago. I'm generous on my good days, and noble on my worse ones. How can you even suggest that I'm being sarcastic? I'm a community volunteer for chrissake! I tell people to shut up soon as they start making a moron of themselves, and I do it for free: ergo, I do it for the good of everyone. Look at the review I just gave you.
Alright, let's cut to the meat. Your story's predictability can work easily as a gagging machine if you feed it with just the right amount of batteries. The first paragraph of my review sums up everything it is and everything it's going to be and if I mised anything, that's because I had dried milk for a midnight snack. May I remind you, for the last time, that the characters you want to pair up with your Mary Sues (who are the pimped up versions of yourself) are S-class murderers? Capable of homicide without regard for anything pretty? If you follow this line of logic, yes, only Mary Sues can melt that kind of hearts.
This is not to say, though, that it's impossible to write an OC fiction about them. Some good authors have done that before. You, however, draw from all excremental cliches and cram them in one document so that you can represent the fantasy that you no longer can hold back in. It's just plain retarded.
I stated my case clearly. You made things so convenient for your OC's that I'm led to believe you've imagined yourself a thousand times in their shoes, hoping to earn love the easy way. I talked about real conflicts and dilemmas and I find none in your fic except for the dilemmas I'm faced on whether I should go on reading or not. You mentioned that it's fan fiction, implying that one can do whatever he wants with it. But does fan fiction have to suck this bad? Why not ask yourself that question? I'm glad that you decided against writing about your Mary Sues' past, because I'm sure that would just absolutely crown the already unbeatable crappiness of your plot.
Don't write lemon for humanity's sake. It's enough that we get to have a glimpse at your fantasies, but sexual fantasies are another story. Toe off the line. I'd rather drown in romance paperbacks and never see the light of day again.
Have a good day,
Bet
And another:
Author: emogirl1790
Title of story: Natsuki
Summary: When a girl from England is transported through a puddle to Konoha 5 yrs after the Kyuubi's attack, will she use the opportunity to help Naruto's path in life? Or will she simply stand and watch? And does Konoha have more in store for her? KakaxOC
My rating: double S shit.
My flame: This is a parody, am I right?
If not, do not under any circumstance communicate with virgin bimbos and make up your mind for you so that they'd get to run this story by turning it into their ultimate fantasy of getting screwed and loved, which is even less likely. The last time I had cramps so bad was when I accidentally jogged in Quentin Ville in Denver for seven hours while fresh off from a two-year comatose. I ended up in the ICU soon after. Now how the hell are you going to pay for my medical bills?
If not still, you're simply horribly in want of ideas.
I can't believe that you weren't joking while you thought of this. I cant find any excuse for such a hideously cliched plot other than because you can't hold back years of pathetic fantasies that will never know any fulfillment. Did you even notice that your title and the name of your Mary Sue are the same?
Alright, you clearly stated that your OC is a Naruto fan, which would give her power over the whole village. You made it so convenient, so planned out for her to find her way to everyone's heart that I can't think of anything that would go wrong for her. You know what, delete this cr@p. No one's interested to hear what you want to happen to yourself so much that you can't restrain yourself from publishing such amazingly retarded ideas.
Push the effing button.
Her response:thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed review, i'm sorry that
the story isnt to your taste, but this is really just an outlet for me.
if you [the reader] does not enjoy these stories, that's fine with me. i
write what i like because i enjoy writing. simple as that (although i suggest
you stop reading stories like this though, because you're really just wasting
you own time). if i ask for ideas from my readers, it's because i'm interested
in what they want to happen.
the irrelevance of your own experiences helps little in how i am supposed to
improve my story, so again, a waste of your time.
and never in my story have i ever implied that i have any desire for any of
this to happen to me. this is purely an imagined adventure for an OC of mine.
btw, you may want to rethink the hypocrisy of your profile [as a major
flamer] to your first story "For What It Takes" [i quote "Don't flame. i hate
flames :-)"]
Peace
My response again:
So simply put, you indulge your readers who are most likely just as delusional as you. Wow. This is a rare case: bimbos ganging up to come up with a fine finished product. I'm curious, though, why none of you ever bothered with something that's not a cliche, retarded, or an abomination.
Again, without further adorning the language, let me tell you that you just gave every indication that you're an effing Mary Sue whose name is Natsuki and who made it to Naruto's world. Amazing! You people, I don't understand why you keep posting works that are just thinly-revised copies of one another. If you want so much to be Kakashi's girlfriends, please do not alert the entire world and gush out with something as blatant as this. So much for an outlet.
A waste of my time? Thanks for your concern; you should've just written that at the start of your crap so people would be able to avoid it.
"Don't flame. i hate flames :-)"
Shoot. Why did I ever forget that I wrote that?
With love,
Bet
*****
Two other stories I found amusing (by a single author):
Shikamaru Nara's Guide to Women - (woven by my own words) in which Nara Shikamaru fucks and fucks and spins out of control and character.
The Look in His Eyes - (woven in my own words) in which Uchiha Itachi takes his Mary Sue as his sex slave, fucks her brains out, cums inside her, and yeah, fucks her all the time.
*****
For the final wrap-up: Guys, as a peace-loving person, I am grieved to be a part of this unsolicited torture. I beseech you, therefore, to stop writing. It wouldn't hurt your chances at salvation if you ever do. It mightily pains me to think that there are people who try to justify what they lack by publicizing their pathetic fantasies (for the last time) in places I can find. Why ever drag others in when they can easily get lost?
Naruto category is a gold mine.
42 Comments:
I flamed two of them: that Natsuki thing, and that guide to women shit. Unfortunately I didn't have much to say since I'm not familiar with Naruto. Guess I should start working on that.
I'll put their replies up here if and when they reply to my reviews.
4:47 AM
By the way, here are some more Naruto fics that can be flamed. I thought they were incredibly shallow and sucky, though I didn't flame them myself. Yet.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5157325/1/Ninjas
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5157229/1/The_Return_Note
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4221301/1/Ever_Ever_After
That's all I could find... I'm not a very good judge of Naruto fics. I should leave this to ivy.
7:52 AM
Don't worry about it. I can find crap worthy of our attention. And because that fucker who wrote FOURPLAY inspired me to unknown bounds, I will henceforth focus my attention on lemon.
1:09 PM
Works for me. It's true that retards tend to get carried away by their retarded fantasies while writing lemon fics.
8:15 PM
Bear with me. My bosses like to think I have 1,000 bodies or something. I'll get back on this later. =)
9:01 PM
Bet!
My blog's going private. I need your email add so I can invite you. Hope yah don't mind!
1:12 PM
Sent them my review. Thank god I don't have you patience Bet. I mean reading all of them. Lol.
10:58 PM
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11:07 PM
Ivy,
Haha! You've always been Naruto's funniest reviewers. :D
11:09 PM
Strider,
I'm using my gmail account. Yahoo's been inactive for so long as I can remember.
Ivyblue,
Patience is the key to sound rational, as opposed to retarded fics, that is. Good luck with your boss.
3:47 AM
Anyway, people, somebody stood up for the retard called strangebeautiful and replied with something like this:
You should really continue this story!T_T
Don't pay attention to useless flamers who harass people instead of leaving constructive reviews to help you improve.
They suck big time just because a story doesn't meet their requirements. I mean what the fuck are they doing here if they don't like it? Don't like, don't read it's just as simple as that. Besides it's fiction, thus it serves the purpose of creativity and fantasy in any way possible. Fictions are not bound to necessarily reflect reality, they're what the author want them to be. I've read trash stories that didn't even get spammed by flamers as they don't have the guts to flame popular shits. Honestly they should be ashamed of their lame behaviour.
(And well, too bad that I prefer fulfilling "my sexual fantasies set in caves" through fictions rather than "getting laid once in a while" like a f* whore who can't manage to keep the same man more than a week. I guess it’s a matter of self-respect and education though.)
keep writing!^.^
Now I don't mind a group of bimbos who make the best of their logic or lack of it, but for their combined efforts to still sound this retarded, now that's something uncalled for.
My reply, by the way, was calm and nice.
3:51 AM
Yeah, I just flamed that fic and that motherfucking ani-fuckme-sama.
4:11 AM
Done with work. At least for now.
Bet, your SD review gave me a new reason to exist. Haha.
Strider, I try to do away with swearing since that's always what I do everytime I work. Let's have fun making fun of these bimbos.
Kaiser, I'm really on a writer's block. For real. I've been doing so much marketing writing crap I haven't written a single sentence. Sorry :(
11:07 PM
ivy, no problem. it's the same with me: haven't written a word.
on the other hand, there's news. one of the fics we flamed before -- it has an update. the nerve...
http://www.fanfiction.net/r/4916312/
11:22 PM
And what's this: a flaming spree, and I'm not even invited? *smiles like a retard*
Bet, you always make me laugh with your reviews. It makes me want to go all out with the other flaming account of mine and join you guys.
Maybe I will, anyway. XD
These girls--do they know how I hurt my brain to think before I post my crap to FFN? It saddens me that these girls didn't even think before they posted and as the result, FFN is an overflowing crud of Mary Sue OC junks.
Oh, back to the old days again. XXXXD
11:22 PM
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12:45 AM
Ok, I've read that Mary Sue ItaXOC Lemon and my brain is burning.
Oh, and my eyes.
Left heart-warming reviews though. =)
12:48 AM
MIKE!!!
Now the gang's nearly complete! More, more, more!
7:03 AM
Itachi-the-rapist fic was deleted. Sad... :(
7:59 PM
That's not fair! Just when we got a response.
This is bad for business. This is why I hate catering to losers.
5:13 AM
That's a total bummer...
5:15 AM
I told her to delete her fic. it's my fault! *grimace*
But I also made her feel guilty about she wanting to be raped.
Maybe I should use less tact and be more provocative next time. :(
6:12 AM
Mike,
Did you now? I wasn't able to read your flame! Now I'm really sad... You have a copy? Oh, and by the way, the moron dedicated it to Itachi. It's supposed to be a tribute. My take on that is, if I come to die one of these days, I'd be really saddened to be remembered as a rapist, especially when I wasn't.
7:41 AM
Hey, all of us were actually telling her to delete the fic. Just didn't expect her to actually comply. OC/RuHaru-writers are usually incredibly stubborn.
Like this one, for instance, who replied to the flame I gave her story (RuHaru): http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5100718/1/Enigma_of_the_heart
The reply:
sorry for even existing in this site dear.. However, in the first place, I
clarified that this fic IS A WORK OF MY OWN MIND.. i'd suggest you stop
reading this fic any further if it annoys the hell out of you...
Thanks for the review though...
I'm really starting to get sick of the same old reply. So much so that I'm considering not countering this... this shitty attempt at writing something that even remotely resembles something intelligent. I get bored of saying the same thing over and over again to different OC/RuHaru-writers.
But since I can't have her believing that her miserably constructed sentences beat me, I replied:
Couldn't have come up with a more cliched and at the same time irrelevant excuse for writing badly -- no, horribly -- could you? Has it ever crossed your mind, whatever little of it you have, that you're being redundant by saying 'this fic IS A WORK OF MY OWN MIND'. In two places, in fact. The first, when you say 'fiction', it is taken for granted that it is a result of the author's imagination -- you don't have to say that. The second is when you say 'my own mind'. When you say 'my' mind (I'm assuming at this instance that you have one), it means that the mind you're referring to is your 'own'. You can't refer to anyone else's like that. Sheesh! I'm trying to reason with a cow. And in case you haven't noticed, or if perhaps it didn't occur to you, the very fact that I reviewed Chapter 4 (yeah, bring on the confetti: I normally don't go beyond Chapter 1 in shitty fics) and didn't review after that indicates clearly that I abandoned reading that 'fic' of yours. You should go get your brain checked as soon as possible. You'll probably find that you're missing it. Then you ought to start on your futile search for it by traveling around the world in 80 years. Hopefully that'll keep you away from FFnet.
7:44 AM
Bet, I remember saying these:
Fiction does reflect reality, and the reality reflected from this story is: the author is a moron.
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and
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What's this? I'm saddened by the fact that this story is a mere tool for you to vent out your horniness for the Akatsuki bastards. Yeah, you are beautiful your body is so heavenly, that they would just go out of character and rape you? Seriously, how low can you sink to? You think rape is enjoyable? I don't mind rape scenes really, but only when they contribute to the plot and convey certain values (moral or immoral). But this one is just mindless rape.
Does rape turn you on? I bet you get all horny when you read about rape cases in the newspaper. And your choice of words: ass, pussy, clit. Have you even read a single decent book in your life? because those words are so vulgar.
Please, for the love of God, delete this fic.
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and she did. :))
4:39 PM
Mike,
What you said was absolutely true. I've been telling these fuckers that rape scenes are okay as long as they're meaningful or contribute to the development of the plot; but all they do is come back with crap accusing me of spamming their stories. Honestly, I'm giving up.
Kaiser,
These are exactly the kind of retards who'd come to their own defense saying that fan fiction is a self-expression and that they can do anything they want with it. The truth? self-expression doesn't have to suck. I've given up n explaining it to them because they apparently DON'T GET why they suck.
11:01 PM
Found a potential candidate for being flamed in the Naruto category: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5161643/1/Past_Dreams_and_Future_Fears
11:36 AM
Kaiser,
Roger that. Thanks for taking the time to look it over. It was a golden Mary Sue this time.
9:19 AM
Dead link... Sad.
7:57 PM
Did that author delete her story too after bet flamed her?
Gah.
You don't get amusing customers these days, right bet?
10:28 PM
NOOOOOO!
Just when I dropped a congratulatory review! But fun's not completely dead; she sent me a PM, which is,
Hey, I really don't appreciate the sarcasim. If you don't want to read the
freakin story then don't. It's not my problem. And this character is FAR from
a Mary-Sue. If you waited for me to post more, you'd see how the story
actually goes and not be so damn judgemental. So please, before making any
conclusions; wait
11:46 PM
That's a real shame.
3:25 AM
what's up, everyone?
7:36 AM
Hey, long time no see. Check out the fics Bet linked up here. One of them has unfortunately been deleted, but the three others are still in existence and are practically waiting to be weighed down by flames to the point that they won't be able to survive anymore. In addition, I've been browsing through the SD category lately in the hopes of finding at least a few fics bad enough to flame among the sporadic updates the category gets. I make it a point to link those up here. Enjoy.
9:19 AM
Hey ivy, some dumbass fucker replied to our flames: http://www.fanfiction.net/r/5100718/
3:25 AM
By the way, I flamed this author in the Bleach category and posted up the entire exchange on my blog: http://baneofhumanity.blogspot.com/2009/06/interesting-exchange.html
4:01 AM
Ivy!!! Our collaboration has been flamed! XD
http://www.fanfiction.net/r/5138253/
9:24 AM
Don't mind 'it'. It's just a fucking coward who got flamed by either you or ivy. 'It' obviously didn't read it, otherwise it could've said something more.
And it's a fucking Filipino who created an account two days ago just in order to get back at all. What a fucking shame. I've always thought the some Filipinos are the worst writers in ffnet, and they're pretty losers too.
12:18 PM
Strider is 150% right. Some Filipinos are losers that way, in fact "its" flame is sort of like the usual reply you'll get when you criticize them. I remember my poorly educated cousins doing the same to each other. Haha.
10:35 PM
Yeah. 'Things' like 'it' are not worth talking about. I just found the whole thing amusing and a little ironic. :)
3:27 AM
Can you check this out?
www.fanfiction.net/~nothingtodo
She's written a lot of SDboys/OCs, and although I really think none of them are exactly Mary Sues, I'm interested to know what you think. Thanks.
8:30 AM
I was just reading this blog and clicked on that Aiko of the Akatsuki story. The author is still writing and the latest chapter is OC smut (her OCs having sex with Itachi and Hidan).
I had to facepalm because both Itachi and Hidan are so OOC it's not even funny.
5:49 AM
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