Thursday, April 21, 2005

The Feeble-minded and their Champion

To those anonymous people here that do not know me:
What makes you think I'm not doing this for my amusement?

To the first one who said:
so here's the blog of the not so infamous poseur bet you love that.

it's dorian ghey. for someone who thinks highly of themself, you're a real loser. a blog dedicated for flaming? get a life you wannabe.


I'd like to inform you that the infamous real Dorian Ghey who's not as infamous as I am is laughing like a hyena. We've been interacting lately and he's not so dumb to give me such inane comments and use a non-existent word, themself. Miss Stupid, my hide is thick enough to deflect remarks like losers without a life. I have one actually (and I've already said this) but I don't think it's challenging or entertaining enough because my narcissistic nature will only be too obvious if I start annoying the real people around me. And we don't want that. I still need a new TV with progressive scanning in my room. I'm a fucking spoiled brat and life is too easy so I find myself with more time than I could use. My PC life is not entirely better than my real one but the former is far more interesting. Got that?

And to the valiant champion who comes riding in with her shiny armor and humanitarian words:

I'll cut to the chase, all right? KanonA, what the hell is your problem? Don't answer that. I know. I'm amazed that you have the audacity to tell me:

perhaps if you spent more time trying to improve your writing and less time lambasting those that may have a different opinion than you.

I'm not the one who writes like all I've read is fanfiction and Mitch Albom, du null. I read a lot of things to improve my writing and strengthen my intellect even if it's not that obvious. It's just that if it comes from a writer in a mediocre level such as yourself, the advice seems misplaced. Believe it or not, flaming is a pretty decent effort in making a study of teenage intelligence.
It's so stupid that it embarrasses me to explain it. First, I didn't immediately assume that Chelating Compunds is Sey Lee. That was suggested by the great purporter of caffeine addiction. Whatever his reasons are, I'll respect that but I thought Chelating Compounds was you, actually. You've got the same idiotic way of defending yourselves.
I'll break it down.
One writes a fic that is by many standards, far better than the ones around in FFN. Someone else flames it. The writer retaliates. And then you tell the writer that she's a spoilsport for doing so. Do you watch tennis? You get tired of long rallies? I love those things.
Don't you see the point of this blog? I flame and I love it when flamees retaliate. This is the place for testing ballistics. A free for all. I'm not going to tell them to shut up the way you do. Actually, there have been wise ones who said that they'll improve, which is great. And there are dumb ones who flame because their friend got burned. Now, I love flaming because it's amusing to see how people react to a negative stimulus.
You're telling me to stop being hostile. You are being attacked for your inconsistency. Simple as that. You weren't expressing a difference of opinion. You were trying to get a rise from the people you are clearly envious of to lure them into a trap. A trap that might be effective as long as it was set up by someone with a higher intellect. Unfortunately for you. As for the anonymity, I don't think that what you said is the real reason. You wanna hear what it is? You're afraid that these writers would write you off as another wannabe, which you're proving that you are and out of spite, they'd rip your fics apart. You're scared that if they do, you'll be put to shame because they're better writers than you. Chelating is a nice, empty front. No one can throw insults at your creations because they don't exist. Right-o?
The points that I'm driving at are:
1) You're a mediocre writer with no original ideas and you know it
2) You are so green with envy that you had to resort to drastic measures to get a shot in the limelight
3) That these two writers will only listen to accurate advice or ones that have been made by good writers
4) You might be slightly better than the ones that I and the others flame but you still have a long way to go before I regard you as an authority. That's a standard.
5) I'm a notorious fucker who makes lots of assumptions

You tell me stuff about how I slander people. Huff. Gawwd. I get tired of people addicted to their own brand of blind righteousness who says, "Attack the writer's work but not the writer."
Don't you get it? A writer writes what he does because of what he is. Notwithstanding his imagination, it's himself that he puts in his work. If it sucks, then he must have poured shit in it and you can't blame the work for that. It won't exist without the writer.
Perfect case in point: Anne Rice
You say you're tired of flame wars. Then why the fuck did you have to go here of all places? You're like the vegetarian who goes out of his way to hang around in the town's bloodiest abattoir to tell its workers that animal slaughter is unacceptable.
Or maybe you just want a slice of the veal, eh?
I don't have perfect grammar. Neither does caffeine-addict. No one does.
But there you go, swimming in your presumptions that I'm a miserable know-it-all. It must offer you a great deal of comfort in thinking that I'm nothing but a tub of lard with an extremely antisocial or more fittingly, narcissistic behavior that sits in front of the PC all day, terrorizing worms.
I won't stop you. One like you would need petty assurances that if nature made one better in writing than you, then it must follow that you must have a far more spectacular life than him. Your insecurities make you so restless that I am doomed to pity you, attention whore.

81 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This message is dedicated to the shithead who gives cowardice a lofty position - the one who poses in anonimity -- figures.

Hahhahahah...

You see loser, I am God and I am godless so in my opinion you still suck 'coz you don't know the difference between slander and libel. Your insecurity makes you post this in anonimity, am I right, bitch? I told you I'm crazy and I have no reason whatsoever to harrass people and I enjoy harassing people so fuck off and continue to sulk on your donkey 'coz I'm still on a stallion. I ain't the one who brags about my grammar, loser; it's that suckling you call Chelating Compounds. I ain't the one who's stalking people's blog so don't give me bullcraps about me having a miserable real life because it is you who are insecure and you'll never be as good as Strider or Ivy or BYLT so why don'tcha continue your miserable little life and resort to oblivion in your cyber life. I know who you are and you suck like turd so go to hell, loser. Hahahahhahah...You were the one who said everybody's entitled to their opinion and IMO you suck, do something about it if you can, eh?

And don't you think I've retrogressed at this 'coz I am a GOD in my life and in my cyber life so go to hell 'coz you write like a dyslexic fuckhead.

Hahhahahaha

caffeine-addict (Still...)

11:36 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still it's me, who needs encapsulated caffeine 'coz vigil is abandoning me and is causing my mind to become fickle. And still this message is directed to that petty, insecure bitch --

I’ve admitted I’m schizophrenic and masochistic and I am a low-life so I have no problems with attacking people’s personality unlike you.

Hahhahahahah...I am a God in any life I am in, and I make myself a god, so surrender to the fact that the one who is stupid and incompetent and insecure is YOU.

-caffeine-addict-

1:42 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's going on here? Now you're attacking Kanon A? I must have missed something here, what exactly did she do? You said her writing is mediocre, do you even know what mediocre is? It means ordinary, obviously, Kanon A'a writing borders between trying-hard-to-sound-good and very-poor-usage-of-tenses, that's not even near mediocre, that's crap.

A lot of people may have expected a lot from her because she gives reviews like 'well written enough', 'not bad' and other things that suggest that she has a high standard. Sadly, when you read her fics, they're actually stuffed with tense confusion, in some sentences she used present in narrating but after that she'd use past. It seems to me that she wants to establish a reputation that she is one good writer. And that's embarassing because she commits very simple mistakes that even gradeschoolers wouldn't commit.


It's not like I hate kanon A, it's just that she shouldn't have given such reviews if she herself is bad in English.

I checked out her profile and she said she knew she sucked yet she got mad at those who told her that she sucked because they didn't even tell her what made them say that. What was she playing at?

And to the anonymous who said that BYLT is pathetic for creating a blog dedicated to flames, I think this is rather a good idea, it's better to bash people here than doing it on the review pages, after all, a lot of stories have been deleted because of flame wars.


---burning bush aka Yahweh

1:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mikey, don’t be too nice to her, she acknowledged herself that she’s dyslexic; so it will be meaningless to say things congested with mannerisms, which in my case; I never had. It’s always easy for someone who gloats of morality and pragmatism to look down on me because of the method of my messages. I would admit that I did personal harassment, and I don’t really care of the penalties of my behavior. I just resent the fact that people are preaching about ethics on me; and I hate individuals who think that they are holier than me just because they are too ‘tired’ or too ‘moralistic’, because I know deep inside; they want to say things the way I said it but they care too much about what people think of them. I don’t; and I don’t think I’ve deteriorated at that fact; that’s why I’ve been proposing the bad side of me to FFN; and I never wanted attention or anything in return, because if I do, then I would have flamed lots of other stories too. As far as I can commit to memory, I’ve only flamed one fiction, particularly entitled ‘Winter Love’, because of collective reasons, and I don’t think I was the only one who wanted to do that.

For someone like Chelating Compounds, she tried to pillage my rights from me. I think it is incomprehensible for someone who believes in ‘right of opinions’ to steal my beliefs just because the way I did it was unethical, and I’ve met in real life; too many people who behave in such manner and I don’t believe in behaviorisms. Just because she injected saintliness in her words, she did not consider hers as flames so my cause was wrong? So she has more rights than me to express hers just because I don’t sound as seraphic as her? If there is anything that I hate in this life; it is hypocrisy, and I am making myself redundant. They may think whatever they want, but I will not lose an upper hand to atonement of what I have said, regardless of how satanic.

So let ‘em think whatever they want, they have failed to convince me that they are righteous; because they themselves stray from their own rationale.

-caffeine-addict-

4:50 AM

 
Blogger betyoulovethat said...

In the tradition of Eric Cartman:
Screw you guys.
I mean you, Mikey and caffeine-addict. You fucking took the words off my mouth. Couldn't have said it better.
Hahahaha! I was actually a bit apprehensive about mentioning KanonA because I knew how delightfully combustible caffeine-addict is. But oh well. Secrets are one of the nicest things to share.

11:09 AM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

cool! ^_^

12:52 PM

 
Blogger Celestial Maiden said...

Is there always a standard on what a flamer should be? Does he/she have to be someone who has a pathetic life? Or someone who had noting else to do in their short lives except bash some author's work?

Or does a flamer have to be insecure about his/her own writing that flames are composed? Or a bunch of losers without a life of their own?

I doubt it. So why do most retaliations are based on the flamer's personal life? Has it ever occured to people that it is unprofessional to bash someone's personal life?

The thing is, as for most flamers, Bet You Love That is the only decent flamer I met, and that is not because we're corresponding. I admit I found her flames quite harsh at first but pity for the flamed writers aside, she means well. At least it was specific on why a fic sucked.

People don't flame just for kicks. They have a reason for doing so and most of them mean well.

Flames are a harsh way of realizing you need improvement and either you try to imporve and see it as a challenge or sulk.

Your choice.

5:59 PM

 
Blogger The Denizen of the Dark said...

Forgive me, darlings, but I have no idea what's been going on here since I last commented. I thought BYLT was asking for help about the launching of his new fic and an amusing flame war caught my eye just this morning. I've been missing that. To kick things off, I'm Night Strider, I'm not a coward to hide my identity like what those blog lurkers do and expect that I'm gonna give frank opinions about this one. But please take note that I'm biased towards Bet You Love That. Wahahaha! Alright, has anyone told you that a blog is a private place? If you're so sick of flame wars (anonymous, I mean you) then why not just, like, stay away and ignore? The cure is just so easy; it's even easier than doing nothing at all. You hate flame wars, BYLT understands that; and for that reason he comes up with this blog just to stop dropping flames on your review pages (since a lot have already said that they've been hurt). That's almost an act of respect for fanficiton.net, and to think that BYLT asserts himself as someone who shuns morality. The problem is, you guys are stalking; you refuse to divulge your identity and then argue incoherently in this blog. And the funniest thing is you end up saying 'Leave us alone'. Now will you look at the contradiction of your own words? You want to end this flame war and yet, you are the ones who come in here uninvited to prolong an argument. Wow, how smart is that?



You complain of how mean BYLT, caffeine-addict, and Dorian Ghey are when their idea of fun doesn't even concern you. These guys don't even care for you so why would you? Like, duh. And then you keep on telling them that you guys are NOT AFFECTED by what they say because they are STUPID. H-E-L-L-O? Then why are you reacting so defensovely and offensively in the first place? You say that they don't have a life, but what do you call that someone (YOU) who seeks attention from people (THEM) whom you said don't have a life? Talk about the lowest of the low. You keep on pressing that they're mad at anyone who's not in the same side as they are but isn't just that because, in the parlance of caffeine-addict, there is an insertion of hypocrisy here? Can you even find counter for this one:

'Just because she injected saintliness in her words, she did not consider hers as flames so my cause was wrong? So she has more rights than me to express hers just because I don’t sound as seraphic as her?'


Euphemisms are the worst kind of verbal offense. Amen. Chelating Compounds, you should stop it. Just listen to caffeine addict, discount his curses, and discover that he makes perfect sense.



BYLT, how sure are you that it's KanonA? No offense but aren't you just being presumptuous? Personally, I can't see how she could be involved in this unless she's an OC writer whom you flamed ages ago. Anyway, I think I got a review or 2 from her and none are really flames. I tried to read her stories, God knows, but I can't find the words to say. Sometimes the byword 'if you have nothing good to say then say nothing at all' is so true. I don't know, but if the YAOI fic is not as good as Yelen's or Ivybluesummers' or Pollux's or Hagane's I just keep quiet. Whatever, I hope it's not her because I'm dead if she reads this. Hahaha! I told you I'll be honest.

11:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bet You Love That: Yeah. I understand your sentiments. That is why we are on the same frequency.

Mikey: Would you stop promoting me like I’m a delicious but ugly cookie? :P

NightStrider: Well, our master of whoissit and who’sdunnit had figured out Anon’s scheme. He’s just that great.


Firstly, I would assert that I don’t want to prolong this dispute with Anon, but I ruminated that I have to clarify certain things to her about myself. I’m not being defensive. I’ll clear certain issues about me, and therefore; put some common sense in it in order to prevent further uncertainty about me.

I know a lot of people have been questioning my irrationally apoplectic nature. Stuff in my profile is only exaggeration, in some ways; I wanted to intimidate people with it; true to BYLT’s words; I am delightfully flammable. But that if the case, if someone challenges me on my depraved vernacular. It really amuses me though, that people trust what I have written in it. I intentionally ‘peppered’ my answer to Chelating Compounds with grammatical mistakes so that she had a point to bash me back. It was tiring that she could not come back at me with good counter-arguments; so I gave her a point. Sadly, she was in a state of delirium; and she did not notice it.

Second, I wanted people to know that I am not a grammar god. Nobody’s a grammar god or goddess, and I don’t know why Anon has that impression. There are many grammatical mistakes that I committed, so indulge in them. I want Anon to feel that she is better than me.

Third, vis-à-vis CrazyButterfly, I did not blindly flame her. My first message to her was a criticism, but she obliterated it by reviewing for her fiction and defending herself in anonymity; and her reviewers then continued to proliferate like ghastly rabbits in that Lewis Carroll’s novel (figures). That was the foremost point as my foundation to attack her, because the initial message from me was ineffective. Second, she used poorly constructed sentences and her grammar expertise was horrendous. I learnt in First Grade about the rules of Infinitives, so I could not accept that she did not know even that. Third, in her hands Haruko became a Mary Sue, fourth; she inserted herself as Haruko, hence the out-of-characterizations for both Haruko and Rukawa. I stopped writing fan fictions two years ago, but I can still identify what is a good story and what is not; and I thought I had the right to publicize my opinions. ‘Winter Love’ reminded me a lot of the inane telenovelas in cables, and I could not stand letting Inoue’s masterpiece being butchered and reduced into a petty love story that does not harbor any whatchamacallit sense of logic in it.

Fourth is the elucidation on my seething phraseology. I infused atrocity in my messages, because in my opinion; the act of flaming itself is connected to indecency. I saw no sense in acting all moralistic or righteous about it. Flaming is interwoven with arrogance, notoriety and egoism; there is certainly nothing beatific about it. Consequently, I would rather act like a low-life who attacked their personalities.

Fifth, I had no intention of being famed by incinerating these inept writers. I could have popularized myself by becoming their champion and savior as in Chelating Compounds’ approach, but I was fully aware that I was of no position, nor qualifications to act so. That was why I accentuated my hostility. I could have thrown sarcasm the way Dorian Ghey did, but I saw that it was rather pointless to be cynical towards someone who could not grasp sarcasm.

So Anon, do you see me? Do you see the real me? You generalize me as a scum after you have read my words, but in real life; I am not a punk you think I am. Call me a filthy bastard, a lower-than-grime microbe, a despicable pig, a pathetic lunatic, a perverted psychopath or a stinking turd – I need to hear those. Swear and curse at me, I need it; because in my real life, I am God. I’m larger than life, ergo; I need some reminder than I am human. I need to be convinced that I am human, because my life is too perfect. I need to lower myself and become a scum in this Internet life.

So do you see me?


P/S: I am not the one who had been insulting people in their blogs under anonymity. Define that to me, because I did not have such courage; nor cowardice. I’ve never strayed from my professed basis. But you?

caffeine-addict

10:07 PM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

i read the anonymous comment on BYLT's last entry; honestly, it's funny how some anonymous one would accuse certain individuals of being defensive and of throwing ad hominem arguments. the paradox is, she's actually the embodiment of of being ethically preposterous and logically incoherent, of being defensive complemented with hypocrisy. she declares this godly vindication which is really absurd (and to think, her usage of "lambasting" is going overboard); but i like how this flame war is going... really cool and amusing. ^_^

anyways, shattered teardrops re-posted her horrendous fic, you guys might want to check it out. ^_^

3:51 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

perhaps if you spent more time trying to improve your writing and less time lambasting those that may have a different opinion than you.

Finally, this:

perhaps if you spent more time trying to improve your writing and less time lambasting those that may have a different opinion than you

-is not from me. I have never constructed such a sentence in my entire life, then had it delivered to you. Seems like someone's posing to be me - get a life! Posing as mediocre me? Really, get a life. It's funny.

9:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh. So this is how everything goes.

Personally, I don't know why you people are so intent on discovering who chelating compounds is. Maybe you're the insecure ones? She leaves a peaceful remark and you act otherwise? And no, I'm not her. Futile ejection of your innards to boot - why are you so hostile? :) And why am I suddenly dragged in this? Because I have that thing in my profile (which isn't for you, btw, because I'm fighting other demons) and perhaps you expect too much from me? Or because you couldn't find any plausible candidate than I am? Flattering, but I'm not assuming, because I'm not a fishead who thrives on the oblivion of the sea, if you catch the drift.

And so, you just have to pardon me for the tense confusion and all that mediocre stuff - it's not like I write for the satisfaction and applaud of the likes of you. Are you implying you're so intellectual? Pft, behaving like this, yeah. Give me a break. You're nasty and you stick fast, I know - you need not remind me.

And even the way I review is attacked. What do you want me to say, if by any chance I'm so delightfully and deliriously amazed by someone's work? I don't pose. I write for myself. Because I'm a lowlife and merely thrives on anime and fanfiction, and I drop dead at the mere plasmatic contact with anyting relatively intellectual. Capisce? You seem to be a lowlife yourself, picking on lowlives such as me. It's obvious that you don't have anything to do - you must be broed beyond your intellectual wits and so, you spit and spit as to exercise your intellect. An intellectual lowlife - indeed, life is a paradox! What beauty! I haven't seen anything like it!

Oh yeah, I used the word 'thrive' twice. I guess you can now properly accuse me of redundancy. But really, you shouldn't be too presumptuous, dear. I didn't even want to indulge in this game, and suddenly, I've been granted an exclusive, involuntary membership? You don't seem to want me around, but what's this? X9

And really, ffnet's for everyone, even for crappy writers such as myself. If you want to make fun of people such as myself, then go make your own trash site, where only the elite people such as yourself can post, review, and wallow in whatever hedonistic glory there is. (note: the redundancy is intentional for stress - but I suppose that wouldn't fall into any poetic category because I'm as dumb as you all say. And you're gods, amazing.)

Finally, this:

perhaps if you spent more time trying to improve your writing and less time lambasting those that may have a different opinion than you

-is not from me. I have never constructed such a sentence in my entire life, then had it delivered to you. Seems like someone's posing to be me - get a life! Posing as mediocre me? Really, get a life. It's funny.

9:49 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

p.s. To burning bush:

I'm so impressed that you know me so well. Are you my conscience? (Yeah, pilfered from Finding Nemo, happy? I so waste my time in Disney Channel, isn't it obvious? I have the mental process of a kid - as for the age, your call.)

Anonymity should be left for cowards, gossipmongers and the Victorian era, right? With the way you're so brave, I'd like to think you're a miserable reject who's fated to flaunt her much more alluring shadow, with you being so repulsive and all.

If you hate my silence and alleged stupidity, why don't you join in and get me? You're going to be the third intellectual - aren't you all proud of yourselves? :)

11:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kanona


wow! Chelating Compounds leaves peaceful remarks? Isn't that because she's a hypocrite? Why don't you check out her reviews for Strider and Ivybluesummers? They scream INSECURITY. Well, that's probably why you're siding with her; you're both insecure. It's obvious she's nowhere near their talents so she had to nitpick their works till she sounded ridiculous. Now you're accusing me of being a lowlife? I think that word only applies to you. You don't know what I'm up to and what I have. Really, a two paragraph statement made you conclude that? Are you clenching your fists right now? What, I'm not allowed to say what I think anymore? what do you want me to say? you're one of the best writers around? I tried to sound nice so as not to offend you yet you came back by accusing me of being a lowlife. It's obvious that I don't have anything to do? uh, have we met? Have you been stalking me? you seem to know more about me more than i do, I should worship you. wow, you don't seem mad bcos I think you're practically apoplectic with rage. a perfect description for you: Authentic Loser.

Didn't you understand me? How slow can you get? You leave reviews like that, you express that the works are only satisfactory, yet yours are, well, not even mediocre. How, in bloody hell, could you have spotted something 'ok', 'well-written enough' or even mediocre when you're not even ok? what other notion would we have conceived? You're not even good, you claim that you're a lowlife...that left me with nothing else but to think that you want to sound good.


Who wouldn't wanna know who chelating Compounds is? She's the greatest hypocrite the world has ever seen. she flames unflamed stories and defends flamed ones even though they share the same plot. She flamed Coffee maverick yet defended shierri when their works are about haruko and rukawa, oocness, mary sueness, and maverick is even better than shierri, what would you call that?


And you claim that you're crappy, that's what I implied in my first comment, if you really admit that you suck, you shouldn't have attacked me, you're so good at contradicting yourself, girl, you should reread your comments before you publish them and hey, I take back what i said about Chelating compounds being the greatest hypocrite in the world, I think you deserve that title.


people like you are so predictable. yeah, you'd like to think that i'm miserable because pathetic untalented youngsters like you are that immature, you'd have to make someone who doesn't share your opinion a loser or a lowlife. tsk tsk tsk, a piece of advice, go grab a digest (i think you're not yet ready to read books) and leave anime for awhile. : )

still burning bush, guess who fuckers

2:12 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You moron, since when a remark became remarkS? I wasn't referring to her "flames" for Night Strider and some others, because I haven't read them (and I'd be just like you to say otherwise, save that you probably wouldn't want to be compared to the likes of predictable lowlives like me) - I was talking about the review on ivybluesummer's fic. (The one "peppered with errors", you dolt.) If one thing, it'd just about take your hyperactive ego to translate something like that to something like the biggest absurdity of the world. You're acting as if you're more offended than the writer her/himself. What are you, an understatement of a fan? (Btw, your attempt in making an understatement is pathetic. You don't hate me? You can insult me but you don't hate me? Isn't insulting equivalent to destroying - or at least an attempt to - a person's integrity?) No offense to ivybluesummers, but from the way I see it, she was just giving her the feel of the flame, since s/he SUPPOSEDLY "flamed" someone. chelating compounds wanted her to know that flaming mediocre writers (I'm valiantly setting myself as an example) is just the same as flaming good ones - both are imperfect and prone to any mistake. From then on (I'm not going to explain; too tedious), it was just a big, tangled web of misunderstanding between insecure hypocrites. Siding with her means I'm insecure as well? As if you decide the choices. You're a hypocrite, telling me that I think you're miserable because I make people who disagree with me a loser or a lowlife, when YOU accuse me of being a hypocrite, just because I didn't kiss your feet and took chelating compound's side instead. Oh, pardon me, was that too much for you? No? Good.

Let's state the obvious. Instead of making yourself useful, you go pick on me, the untalented, immature youngster. Where's the freaking argument in that? See, I know what you have been generally up to, aside from casting doom on the world everytime you wake up, eating (perhaps) like a human being and other vanities (like ego whoring and thinking that young people are but untalented and immature. Are you getting wrinkly? Old people are that pessimistic about young people).

I didn't say you can't say what you think. Where's that sentence, huh, HUH? I'll butcher it up then piss on it for you. After all, just who am I to stop you? Am I intimidating you? Hell no, right? Why waste your breath?

No, I'm not one of the best writers around. Helloooo, I'm not even a writer (except for the fact that anyone can practically be called a 'writer' when they start exercising the power of the inked wonder or the keyboard). As I've said, writing is pretty much anyone's privilege, but not all can be a writer, myself included. There. Case closed.

You tried to sound nice? Oh come on, I heard something like a deap-seated hatred reverberating from that previous comment of yours. You read my fics? Aw, my sympathies, you've just been robbed of spiritual ecstacy. You seemed like stalking me for a while, but just haven't had the chance to speak out because you don't have anyone to back you up. I could just imagine you clicking away in glee on April 21st, when BYLT and minions decided that they should hate me, because they think I'm chelating compounds. You like, analyzed my fics and generalized them as trying hard to sound nice (which, in your terms, means crap - WHAT THEN DO YOU CALL OTHER FICS IN FFNET? PROMISING CRAP?), and even pinned the tail of trying-to-establish-a-good-name on the amused monkey (which is me). From the wavelenghts of how you converse with an idiot (which is me), you remind me of that belligerent barnacle from lj, but I wouldn't assume. bcos? What's that? An omen of the soon-to-be mutated stupid world, where you and I are constituents of? Pretty weird for someone who actually knows what 'apoplectic' means.

So... if I'm a loser, what are you? The Greater Loser, maybe? If you'd have a larger brain, you'd know I wasn't talking to you. I give you three paragraphs (yes, three. Three is not two), then you make yourself important?

You're saying that I think really fabulous fics (ones that make you die over and over again), or even the general of them are only 'satisfactory'? Well, have you read the said fics? What if that's really how I think of them, AM I NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT I THINK ANYMORE (if you haven't noticed, I threw your words back at you for good reference) What do you think of them? Did they make you want to die over and over again? Can you pinpoint the exact fics of which I've left those reviews on? See, if you're going to generalize, know what you're doing. I'll give you all the pages of my review history. Find my 'well-written enough' review. If you can't (I'm telling you, you can't), then I'm sorry, you really deserve the title of 'The Greater Loser'. I think you're referring to a review of mine in one of Night Strider's latest RuHana fic. I commented about "capturing the CHARACTERS well enough", because if it hadn't occurred to you, no fanfic writer can capture the any SD character in fanfics, because fanfics, as unofficial they are, are portraying OOC characters. We just say 'hey, your fic is so OOC' if we can't stand it anymore.

You seem to be in dire need of who chelating compounds is. I'll you a secret: I MAILED HER ABOUT YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE! YES! Without disclosing her email address (btw, it's in ffnet, if you don't know. HEY, I'm trying to sound nice and generous here!), here's the message:

--Hopefully, you can make ends, connotations and denotations meet. If not, then you just gave me the right to call you stupid. But you wouldn't lose to someone like me, would you?

I attacked you? In a sense, I did, but I WASN'T doing it because you think I'm crappy (which we all think so, right?). I "attacked" you because you think you know me and my fics so well - if I didn't know better, I'd think you're that pisshead from livejournal - but I wouldn't, as I've stated, assume, because that's just like ascending to your level. I already know I'm a hypocrite, but the world's greatest? I think not. There's you. I can never win against you now, can I? :)

Oh, and your "piece of advice" doesn't work for me. How useless can you get?

7:40 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

p.s. To the KanonA poser, get out, please. The real one is here. Though I'm pretty afraid of what kind of miserable reputation you have set up for myself, I guess I don't have the right to, because I'm mediocre. :)

7:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm so stupid, I baffle myself. Let me try that mail thing again:

You seem to be in dire need of who chelating compounds is. I'll you a secret: I MAILED HER ABOUT YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE! YES! Without disclosing her email address (btw, it's in ffnet, if you don't know. HEY, I'm trying to sound nice and generous here!), here's the message:

Hi. Thank you for your support. I really don’t have
anything personal with anyone. It’s just that I
usually say what I think about what I read. It doesn’t
matter if it is yaoi, RuHaru or OC fic. I never
claimed that I am an English goddess. I was also
frustrated. I can’t believe they really think that
creating Mary Sue is alright. I have noticed this
‘circle’ where they praise each other no matter what.
They all claim to be good writers and lash at others
who they judge to be bad writers and yet they don’t
have the courage to accept it if they are being
criticized.

It never was my intention to have coffeemaverick’s fic
taken off. I just wrote an honest review and suddenly
they were all over me. My only problem was how she
depicted Rukawa as an overly sweet brother, not only
very OOC but very impossible. And maybe it is just me,
but I am tired of reading stories where the female OC
is screaming at Rukawa or Mitsui. Not because I don’t
think they deserve it but because it’s so cliché.

I never cared about popularity either.

(copied and pasted from yahoo mail)

--Hopefully, you can make ends, connotations and denotations meet. If not, then you just gave me the right to call you stupid. But you wouldn't lose to someone like me, would you?

7:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahahahahha…

I don’t know if I should laugh at the hilarity of this. But then again, a madman has to do what he has to do…

Firstly, I would tell you that you are so restless. Why? I’ll provide you my point of view. I know you’ve heard of the word ‘curiosity’. An event, which stirs a debate will inextricably, causes curiosity. Simple. But to what extent a degree that one would go to murder their curiosities? I’ll recount the events. First, I reviewed a fiction in which, both Sey Lee and Chelating Compounds flamed the author. Both of the latter flamed the author, and intrigued me so, that in that review, I asked the author to ignore both Chelating Compounds and Sey Lee because they are one. And I’ll provide you a basis. I assumed so, because of the similarity of stance they were standing on, and the way they have been reverberating their flames. I made a crack on it. I did not MEAN it. So the phrase ‘so intent on’ could not be thrown to us. Got that?

Then, Sey Lee sent an e-mail to me, denying that she’s Chelating Compounds. I sent the copy to Mikey, and he pasted it in here for entertainment. There it went, something that circled in this blog, something that never went beyond the boundaries of what low lives like us call ‘rants’. ‘Ramblings’ is another word - meaningless colloquial ramblings. (Boy, am I being redundant. Yeah.)

And then came out of nowhere, Anon; who told me to get off my high horses and stop acting as if I have perfect grammar skills. I did not know where she got that notion, did not I tried to prove hard enough that I was not, and never would be a grammar god? And she told me to stop working over nothing. I thought I had cleared this one. To tell you the truth, I am not interested ANYMORE in knowing who Chelating Compounds is. But now I wonder who anonymous is, and based on my silly judgment and on my overly presumptuous nature, I think that Anon is you KanonA. I’ll tell you why I think so.

I shall put in a disclaimer. If you are not Anonymous, than you should not read this, because after this I will leave you with your apoplectic denial. (Unless there is a need so, I shall intervene again). I don’t know what damage this will do you, so don’t complain later on I did not warn you, ‘coz even if you’re not Anonymous, I still have to clarify these issues with you, on the ground that you and Anonymous share the same opinions.

1) You check this site, man. You are expecting something. If you haven’t written that stuff, then there is no point in coming here in the first place. Then you should not have known what is going on in here.
2) You reciprocate the same sentiments with the anonymous. In my stupid analysis, anonymous is somewhat cleverer, and from vocabulary aspect; richer than Chelating Compounds; yeah, take that as a compliment if you must.
3) Presumptions are made not just on the center of your profile, but the entry in your blog in which you address both Ivy and Strider and even Pollux as pathetic. Usually after pathetic, follows ‘get a life’. ‘Get off your high horses’, ‘stop acting all princess pansy’, ring a bell? Witness the associations?

But it does not matter ‘coz you still share the same estimations/sentiments with Anonymous, which leads me to supply you with some more expostulations, and thereupon, counter your accusations.

1) The issue on Chelating Compounds is so old and is so wearisome, but I’ll explain again. Remember that I flamed CrazyButterfly’s fiction? Your savior interjected and graced me with her conscientious words, and told me that I could not express my opinion because they were amalgamated with hostility. Please don’t make me lecture on this again. Opinion is still an opinion regardless of what methods are used to convey them. The underlying meaning of messages does not debilitate even if it is expletives-ridden. Did not I tell you the whole story? Your CHAMPION there, tried to abduct my rights from me – my rights of speech. I decided to let her be and leave her just there, I let her became a savior for bad writers and I was downright amazed by her then. Later, I was wallowing in the SD category and found the review in which your CHAMPION wrote something like,

“I thought Mary Sue died already? Damn!”

Aha. Is there any sort of hostility in there? Let’s edit ‘Damn’ into ‘Fuck’. There is a probability that the atrocity had been reduced, but the effect? Is it depleted? Hahhahaha. Please don’t give me bulls on how hostile I was, when you are defending a champion who strayed from her own rationale. It must have felt so fucking good for you to e-mail her and paste her words from that Yahoo! Mail in here. Don’t blame me on what I’m going to point out.

Let me paste her counter argument in her answer to both Ghey and me.


To: you know who you are


I don’t know why I am accused of being jealous of Mary Sues. Rukawa, Mitsui et al are just anime characters. You mean, you really think they are real? (shakes head in disappointment) For your information, creating a Mary Sue character is a no-no in fiction writing. That’s why it is best avoided. Mary Sue is not just determined by her state of physical perfection but also by the circumstances and how she moves around the story. Does she always rescue somebody? Is she a relative, sister, childhood friend of a major character? Does she look like she is central to the story? Is she the prime mover of the events? Is she so irresistible that even an ice prince won’t get mad at her, hit her when she wakes him up? Does she know how to sing, dance and play various musical instruments at the same time? Eriko, the created character here is a junior high student but she is always at Shohoku High, ever wondered about that? You do know that just being in a third year building is bad enough for a freshman, what more for an outsider? Ever wondered why the dreaded Mary Sue always ends up at the Shohoku gym even though she has no business there? Ever wonder why it is always hate at first sight and she ends up screaming on their first meeting?

You don’t care about grammar mistakes now? I thought I just read your review on another story, (don’t remember which one) where you said grammar is one of the basics of fiction writing? Why the turn around? Who is hypocrite now? Sorry to disappoint you but I don’t even know Say Lee. Dorian, I am looking forward to reading your story about me.

I am not holding this story against the author. She is good at storytelling and grammar and I want her to continue on writing. In fact, I am looking forward to read more Slam Dunk fics from her.


Hahhaha…there. And this is what she mailed you of



Hi. Thank you for your support. I really don’t have
anything personal with anyone. It’s just that I
usually say what I think about what I read. It doesn’t
matter if it is yaoi, RuHaru or OC fic. I never
claimed that I am an English goddess. I was also
frustrated. I can’t believe they really think that
creating Mary Sue is alright. I have noticed this
‘circle’ where they praise each other no matter what.
They all claim to be good writers and lash at others
who they judge to be bad writers and yet they don’t
have the courage to accept it if they are being
criticized.

It never was my intention to have coffeemaverick’s fic
taken off. I just wrote an honest review and suddenly
they were all over me. My only problem was how she
depicted Rukawa as an overly sweet brother, not only
very OOC but very impossible. And maybe it is just me,
but I am tired of reading stories where the female OC
is screaming at Rukawa or Mitsui. Not because I don’t
think they deserve it but because it’s so cliché.

I never cared about popularity either.


Pardon me if I may ask, were you there to witness the whole thing when the flame war went on? Your champion bashed Mary Sue, but she did not see what kind of Mary Sue was being driven out of Haruko in CrazyButterfly’s fiction and decided to defend her, yet she had the fortitude to flame (she was not giving a review, she was flaming, goddammit). Ask CoffeeMaverick if you don’t trust me – the real victim here is CoffeeMaverick.

Let me provide you another argument. Did not you notice a non-yaoi writer praised NightStrider’s fiction? So does the compliments circle around? Praise does not circulate for no reason at all. For someone like Strider and Ivy, even someone who are repellent towards Yaoi fictions such as me would give credits, because they are good, not just good; they’re great. Your champion there accused Strider’s fiction as a Mary Sue on a nebulous foundation. Why? Criticism can be acknowledged if it is inviolably exact, if the criticism was false, that why the fuck would they accept it? Knowledge in writing cannot be achieved solitarily by writing and watching Anime. Reading good books, being out in the world, mixing around with people, intelligence hence is strengthen and so does writing skills. Even if we are ranting here, what makes you think that we do not spend our time improving that skill? Is that the only way to advance that you can think of? (I know you will reply with ‘yeah, I don’t read books, I’m not going anywhere just here in this site, etc.)

A peaceful remark left by Chelating Compounds, is a mere escapism from accountability. Her responsibility was, to explain just simple things such as the inconsistencies and disagreement of her own words--on why she was being such a hypocrite. It was so fucking simple, but; it was palpable that she could not explicate it. Hypothesis? She was flaming for no cause. She wanted to be looked up on, wanted illustriousness by acting both, as a liberator and as a flamer for writers. Simple exemplification, can a fire become water? Can water become fire? Can both exist on the same establishment? She wanted to flame I would have left her alone. But she acted like a seraph by defending the writers that other flamers flamed, and at the same time she flamed. So, the inference is, the only one who could flame was her and her alone. She opposed flames, nevertheless burned herself. Get the drift? Freedom of speech is not restricted by enmity (I would have called you an idiot under my another façade, sorry). Freedom of speech is for all, but she tried to take it away from others, which left no options for me and ghey but to teach her a lesson. Simple, don’t you think? She, was the one who initially tried to violate our rights of opinions. And please take note - even if hostility is instilled in it, it is still an opinion. The same message but different methods, comprehend? Of course she would not say that she thought of herself being a grammar goddess. But the way she’s been nitpicking Ivy was hilarious. Why bark on two mistakes but protect a thousand of others? CrazyButterfly’s fiction contained hundreds of grammatical flaws in a chapter, why did she protect her? Favoritism? Haahahhaha

I write for myself bwahahhahaah…can I laugh at that? Why don’t you just write and save them in your disk. Each time you wanna read, you open the file and indulge in your masterpieces. A site for all, yet, such egocentrism. Narcissism, anyone? ? It’s the same when you cook, you must have put so much salt in it, but since you’re the one to cook it, you’re biased in believing that it’s perfect. So there will be no advancement, if all the time you are contented with it. But would you listen to a criticism from someone who does not know what salt tastes like? Hell, no; of course.

Regarding low life, I’ll provide you the meaning from some Dictionary of International English (Nope, not Webster. Shoot me). A low life means people who exist by criminal activities or have a way of life that most people disapprove of. So is there anything contradictory in the phrase ‘intellectual low lives) that you would refer to it as paradox? I’ll give you examples – Karl Marx and Hitler. (And you will retort like –yeah, thanks for the lesson on low lives. Ahahhaha)

Spit and spit to exercise our intelligence? What makes you think intelligence can be exercised? Bwahahahahah. Are you in such desperation, that it failed you to see the otherwise condition of a predicament? If intelligence can be ‘exercised’, why would I conduct it with someone such as Chelating Compounds when I could have done it with someone as smart as Dorian Ghey? Bwahahahahahha

Why do you presume that we are leading miserable lives or bored because we are doing this? This is a responsibility in itself; otherwise a God in real life like me would not have bothered. I told you my reason. I told you I need to be convinced that I’m human. My life is the very vision of faultlessness, thus my sanity screams for a little humanity in me, not for a form of rectitude, but in a sense of ghoulish weakness; something akin to…indecency? Why do you think I’m here explaining this to you, when all I could have done to have a little fun was to turn on the Disney Channel and relish on a bowl of popcorns? Because this is an honorable cause, respectable cause of malicious approach, still a decent cause, get it? You think all of this a work over nothing? This is to keep my fragile sanity, and whoever says sanity is not important? Bwahahhaha (and you will retort with crap about you pity me ‘coz I have to resort to this to retain my sanity. Yeah)

And don’t deny this one. You flamed Julie-tearjerky’s fic.tion. There’s not even a modicum of coherence in your arguments. If I may ask, why did you flame her? And yet, you have the heroism to remonstrate against us low lives for flaming? Talk about paradox par excellence. Let’s play a game. We’ll boil plain water. You’ll be the pot and I’ll be the kettle. Wanna play? (Shucks. We’re already in a game. )

You may deny you are Chelating Compounds. I don’t think she is you. But don’t deny to me you are Anon. I may be crazy, but this brain ‘o mine is always working, ever searching for answers. You wanna know my recapitulation?

You are the very epitome of hypocrisy Chelating Compounds could ever hope to be. Don’t ever deny it. You did not want bad writers to go out, so there will be no one left for you to pity, and feel good about yourself. You seek comfort in knowing there are worse writers than you, you don’t want them out. You know what monster it made out of you? Yeah, an even worse monster than me. You seek comfort in feeling you are grammatically better than me, and I’ll give you that prerogative. I’ll give you what you want. You are the best writer around. There on your seat in front of your PC, no one will be able to break you. And you’ll be safe. You can become God.

And perhaps only then, will you understand how I feel.

---Hopefully, I have made ends, connotations and denotations meet. If not, then you just gave me the right to call I am stupid. I lost to you.---

I LOST TO YOU

-caffeinated-maniac-


caffeine-addict

2:07 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ivy: I've prepared a constructive criticism for shatteredteardrops. If ever she decides to ignore it, then I'll just have to unleash my monster.:)

-caffeine-

2:27 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to caffeine-addict:

I hate people who think they know me. Don't interpret who I am for me, please. Even if I did so little thinking in my entire life, you're nowhere near the authority to do that.

So Anon stands for 'Anonymous' (thought it was some warped idea to save time by writing off KanonA as Anon - Anon does appear when you reverse the name. Whatever). I am not Anon, that much I can honestly tell you (I've only appeared since yesterday), but the reason I checked this blog in the first place (which is yesterday) was because of some idiot in livejournal, who, in turn, seems to share the same grounds with you guys. I'd not elucidate - you do know of BYLT's reputation in the Slam Dunk category in ffnet. I'm sorry I even considered her a possibility, but I think she doesn't mind, with the way she's parades on boldly.

Reciprocate the same sentiments with anonymous? Which means siding with chelating compounds and stating unpleasant things about your fellowship? Actually, I wouldn't have cared, if I hadn't found my name on the latest entry. I maybe flameworthy to you, but I don't run away. I'm here to defend myself. Just that. Hopefully then that'd suffice as my denial as anonymous. If you still refuse to believe me, then suit yourself.

My blog? I shall now refer you to your Point # 1. You check that site, expecting to see something. Exepcting something to prove me as an enemy? It's mine, I can say whatever I want, no offense (just like I wouldn't talk about the boundaries of this blog). It's true, I find the flame wars in ffnet wearisome and frustrating, and the fact that the same circle runs them only adds to it. The notion I had in mind at that time was flaming, contrary to it's connotation, need not be so ballistic, and need not be spawned from the intellectuals' collection of profanities. But that's not how you do it, and even so, I respect that, since you are you. But respect that entry, because I'm me and I have nothing to think otherwise, since I believe both flamee and flamer can work things out. I was pretty pissed. Even as a lowlife, I have every right to feel pissed, and thus express my sentiments about it. (Btw, I didn't use the words 'get a life' nor 'get off your horses'. If otherwise, tell me and I'll recheck again). Freedom of speech. Practically what you're angry and fighting for. I hope you can understand.

Okay, so you lead me to the main hall. chelating compounds in not my champion - i know you're just aggravating me but I don't really take sides. The flame wars are your problems. I'm just here to defend myself, as I've said. BUT. If there's a need to side with a party, obviously I side with the other (unless I be convinced).

I'd like to think I witnessed everything there was, but no, I didn't. I didn't go anywhere near coffeemaverick's fic. Even then, I don't know what that has to do with me.

Your arguments incline more on relating how your hate for chelating compound grew, and, except for the fact that we may have conversed twice about you (which was, in case you want to know, was a pretty harmless talk - nothing personal, just freedom of speech), it has nothing to do with me and my reason of being here, so I'm skipping answering to that. (Anyway, even if you would rather not appreciate it, I'm grateful that you didn't jump on me the like that tactless burning bush did.)

I've told you; I'm admittedly not an intellectual, mainly because I'm not like you, who read good books and learns well. I don't make any move towards the fortification of what intellect I have. I can't brag about books and movies like you people can. I'm not a writer, mainly because I really can't be one. Besides the grasp of the language, you'd have to be charming, witty and ideas should come easy for you. I think my ffnet profile proves otherwise, ne? For the last time, that comment about you wasting time that should have been well-spent on improving writing skills was NOT from me. If I said anything to you, as KanonA, it would have been under that name. I am not a coward; I don't need anonymity. And as for replying like a goat, I only resort to that uneducated violence if the person I'm talking to is somewhat of a lesser unfortunate than I am.

Yes, intelligence can be exercised. I'm sorry about the tone of speaking - I was aggravated. People react to a stimulus such as this one (when a prideful's ego is thoroughly attempted to be looked down upon) quite inevitably violent, even in the edge of tactlessness and incoherent statements.

Okay, so you, as an individual, have enlightened me as to why you're doing this. But how about the others? I still fail to comprehend how you can find the sense of humanity in this. Do you hope to be put to shame by the wiser anonymous? If that's how you see it, then I don't have anything to say to that.

Oh, and I never flamed. Just because I tried to correct something, is that flaming? What I wrote may have not made any sense to you, but as someone as mediocre as me, I still have my brain to skim over the surface and detect what's wrong. Come on, she's not the only one I tried giving advice to, no matter how much you'd insult me for doing so because I'm dumb and all that thereafter. After all, the review button appears on my screen all by itself. It's a God-given benefit, no?

Once again, I am not Anon. Just because you're perfect, it doesn't mean you can perfectly identify everyone who acts based upon similar grounds as who and who. I am not Anon, I am KanonA. I argue here as KanonA. Please do tell me, since I have already confessed that I have nothing to do with your arguments with chelating compounds, what is it to me if I hide and disgrace my personal honor by being Anon?

I am a hypocrite. Yes, I know. As for other writers, I don't care about them. Should they write pieces that make my day, then that's good for me. Otherwise, I'd just shut up or give them a piece of my mind. I don't want any reassurances from you; I just want to defend myself. As long as my name appears here, I will fight back, if necessary. I don't dwell on the misfortune of others - I'm not that cruel (actually, I just don't care). I don't think I'm grammatically better than anyone in the world, so stop putting things in my mouth.

I don't need to win; I just want that respect back. Then we can all go back to ignoring each other.

4:06 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Kanona
I’m acting more offended? Uh, do you even know ivyblue’s reactions? Are you that close to her? I’m insulting you? What I said were all true, dummy, don’t tell me you don’t leave reviews like that. Please. Insecured hypocrites? You still don’t get ivyblue’s flame for shierri’s fic? You still take that as an insult when ivy was just asking her if she’s from UP LB? Wow, that has to be REALLY insulting so ivy deserved a flame from Chelating Compounds. CC’s flame for ivy was pathetic, a DESPERATE attempt to put the writer down that she didn’t notice that she corrected what is utterly acceptable in literary arts. And she even corrected ivy’s use for Japanese names, and with that, she concluded that the piece is peppered with grammatical errors, how impressive, messing up Japanese names is considered as a grammatical error, I’d like to learn more about this. I’m a hypocrite? I’m NOT the one who admits that I have no talent in writing and a lowlife and get mad at someone (me) for saying something negative about her writing. Are you lying to yourself or are you just trying to sound stupid by contradicting yourself?


You’re generalizing old people? You better replace my shrink, you know better than she does (and she had a degree in Psychology!). Me, wrinkly? What’s that, an immature attempt to insult me? I am so marveling at your presumptuousness, it’s obvious that you are dying to insult me but sadly, only immature kids like you would be insulted by that remark. By the way, I am vain. I have about 690 pictures of my face saved in my computer, that’s how much I adore myself. Happy now? You still don’t get the argument? I suggest you study reading comprehension. It goes like this, you’re untalented, you admit that, yet you’re bashing me now for saying that the reviews you give do not comply with your writing skills. In other words, edit your works first before you label something as mediocre because frankly, your works do not even cut it. Get it?


Did I say that writing is not everyone’s privilege? Christ, who are you talking to?


Don’t be a prat, you think only BYLT and his gang are the only ones who don’t think good of you? As I have stated, I have read reviews from you for some pieces and you emitted signals that proved that you were a good writer because you seemed hard to please, imagine, giving out reviews like that. And when I clicked your profile and read the first paragraph of this whatever Rainbow fic of yours, it turned out that you CAN’T even use tenses properly, clear? That was disappointing, really. Who told you that I analyzed your fics? You assume too much. ONE DOES NOT NEED TO ANALYZE YOUR FIC TO SEE THAT YOU SUCK IN ENGLISH, THEY JUST HAVE TO READ THE FIRST FEW SENTENCES OF YOUR WORK, OK? Or maybe for someone who’s as incapacitated as you are, YOU WOULD HAVE TO READ IT IVER AND OVER AGAIN TO SPOT A GRAMMAR MISTAKE, NO WONDER WHY YOUR WORKS ARE PEPPERED WITH ERRORS. Want me to mst your work?

You’re asking me if I have read the fics which you have reviewed? OF COURSE! WHY ELSE WOULD I NOTICE YOU? WHAT, YOU THINK YOU’RE THAT POPULAR? PLEASE, GET A LOAD OF YOURSELF, BUT IF YOU WANT TO INDULGE WITH THE IDEA THAT I’M STALKING YOU, THEN BE MY GUEST, YOU REALLY REALLY NEED IT, THAT SHOULD MAKE YOU HAPPY. Happy now?

You’re suspecting I’m what? The closest thing to stalking that I’ve ever done is to check out your God-forsaken fic.

Here’s a more useful piece of advice; the possessive form of ‘it’ is ‘its’ not ‘it’s’, you just have to delete the apostrophe, and I really think you should read a book because of this!


------BURNING GEORGE BUSH

7:20 AM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

this war is very cool. ^_^

but before anything else;
caffeine-addict: yeah, that'd be great, i love to read another flame war in ff.net

everyone: it's nothing serious, i just want to clarify that using "she" to identify me would have no verfiable truth, because i'm an 18-year old lad; further, i am a philosophy major in UPLB.

now, let me take you to my views.
i read KanonA's (or Anon's) comment about Chelating Compounds letting me feel what it's like to be "flamed" because i "allegedly" flamed shattered teardrops; i honestly think that certain terms in fanfic writing are becoming pseudo-concepts (in lexis of analytic tradition, it means that when the meaning/connotation of a certain concept becomes arbitrary, it becomes useless) -- "flaming" and "criticism", save for "review", which includes 'meaningful, banal, hypocritical, and vain (note that my concept of a 'review' is of my own bearing) are different concepts. i'll go straight to my point: my review on shattered teardrops is, believe it or not, an "actual" review, which means, i did not criticize her with ad hominem arguments. has anyone actually read my review? people that are intrigued did, some understood, some did not. Chelating Compounds over-read my review which in semiotics, that would be the extreme/overboard interpretation of a certain text; she instantly became this ethician (now don't ask me if this word is non-extant) with a godly assertion of ethics/morality (well, i'm amoral so it just amused me even more), and same goes for you KanonA/whoever for dittoing that. now to argue that Chelating Compounds flamed my fanfic to let me feel what it's like to be flamed is really... amusing and at the same time absurd. it also intrigued me to find her reviews with other fanfics really inconsistent; everyone can read this blog for knowledge. in the end Chelating Compounds' attempt was futile, if you know what i mean -- her review was preposterous, although i would be more obliged if she reviewed on the story itself instead of nitpicking my mistakes (which i already edited thanks to BYLT); moreover, people around this blog is assuming the phenomena of "insecurity", "hypocrisy" and "inconsistency" among others because her arguments imply so; and when i say "imply", her arguments follow a syllogism which in the end construes her... very amusing conclusions in spite of their absurdity/inconsitency. Chelating Compounds alleged me of "lambasting" other authors which is really unlikely because i only flamed three authors so far; and to think, she is making the word overrated. she also alleged that i claim to be the god of english (figurative obviously); now that's a winner.

she also flamed Night Strider's fic; you know, even julie tearjerky and crazybutterfly can flame, but they MUST make some sense first of what to say before blurting out something they would regret... or not; anyway, people around this blog is accusing Chelating Compounds a "fucker" because, again, her arguments imply so. you shouldn't have posted her mail because if you were to analyze her review with coffeemaverick, it is apparent that she is inconsistent, same with my review, but Strider's case is different, because i honestly think that she didn't read the fic at all to review something out of this galaxy.

am i making sense? i hope i am. ockham's razor: Chelating Compounds is an inconsistent ethician, big time; ditto for anyone who would side with her.

do you know of nietzsche's concept about convictions (Beyond Good and Evil i think, or Gay Science)? Chelating Compounds is an embodiment of that, that's why i loathe her; she wills this reality only she can experience (being the superlative one); that's even more low than being a low life. *shrugs*

it is also mentioned that a certain 'circle' of intellectuals is bragging its intellectuality which i assume to be pissing some people off. and the point is... what point? these people can shove their 'cirlce of intellectuals' to others' faces, same would go for those who wants their own circle. under the genesis of these people, in which freedom is a given disposition, people can rant and ramble to nourish their ego and that's a choice open for all its merit.

oh well... my profile in ff.net would say it all. if this war is going to infringe my ego i will comment again, but caffeine-addict is doing a very good job on that (i mean, replying to accusations and such and thereby defending egos concerned) already, so...
^_^

9:53 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to burning bush:

I do believe I used the words 'as if' in my previous reply to you, as to make sure you know I'm not assuming, unlike your unhygienic habits. You remind me of someone who hasn't been acquainted with 'courtesy' all her life - even Tarzan is a much more pleasant fellow than you are. Oh yeah, and I expect your 'mediocre and really stupid people like you don't need to be respected' reply, but really, you're portraying the finest art of being desperately stupid and hypocritical with the way you're glorifying yourself. Saving face? I thought you don't need that.

Yes, you are insulting me. Insults don't necessarily have to be reversible with apologies like 'I didn't mean it' - they can be truths. But if I'm so repulsive, can you not tell me gracefully? I guess not, because you can't handle the stress of stupidity. How then, do you cope up with other idiots out there? Please, anyone can agree that I'm not the only idiot around.

I don't leave reviews like that. I thought I have explained it to you. I never left a review such as 'well-written enough' that suggest only mild satisfaction, whereas I am not even mediocre to you, right? I never did that. WILL YOU PLEASE LOOK AT NIGHT STRIDER'S RUHANA FIC? THAT'S THE ONLY REVIEW I LEFT WITH THE WORDS 'WELL ENOUGH' ON IT, AND IT DOESN'T EVEN PATRONIZE THE QUALITY OF THE FICTION, you moron. I was talking about the CHARACTERIZATION. I'll state it again, for your benefit, that no fanfic writer can capture the real characters. Can you argue otherwise? Saying 'you got them well enough' (I'm talking about Night Strider's rendition of Sakuragi and Rukawa and the bike) is saying a lot, even for someone as mediocre as me. Your arguments are too far-fetched for your own good, that you should advise yourself reading comprehension instead. How about taking it together with me? :)

As far as I'm concerned, I don't really care on how you deal with chelating compounds, nor how ivybluesummers reviewed Shierri or whoever. Tell chelating compounds that Shierri was really insulted, blah blah blah, so ivybluesummers really deserved that flame, blah blah blah, and that she's really DESPERATE (in a humorous display of despreation by using aggravated block letters -- cool it, I'm not picking on you!) to attempt to put ivybluesummers down, not even noticing she nitpicked on something utterly acceptable, blah blah blah. I don't care.

Yes, you're a hypocrite. You don't like to be called one? Then don't be one. Though that's already impossible, since you've sold yourself out too many times already. I'm not mad at you for thinking I'm crap (WHY AM I STATING THIS AGAIN? DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL YOU A RETARD? I'M EXPLAINING THIS AGAIN, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!); I'm not even the one who first publicly manifested anger. Since you talk like this, I might as well be giving and return the favor back. Telling me I'm mediocre and stupid and all that in a nicer way might really help, but it might be a little useless too, since I already know that.

My generalization is an overworld camera. I'm in a hopeless, impoverished country. Naturally, old people here are pessimistic about the future. Since you haven't even thought of that possibility, you compare me to your shrink, WHO HAD A DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY, when JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, YOU WERE TELLING ME HOW IMMEASURABLY DUMB I AM. Are you trying to sound stupid by contradicting yourself? (I'm tempted to talk in all caps. Maybe then you'd pay attention.)

I'm dying to insult you? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Excuse me? WHY WOULD I DIE TRYING TO INSULT YOU? I'm not even insulting you. I believe I posed the question like this: "Are you getting wrinkly?" It's a tag question, basically. You want me to show you that my third grade kid sister can immediately answer 'NO' to that, because she isn't WRINKLY, and that shameless ejaculation of defensiveness isn't really required?

You're vain? You think I didn't know? I may be incurably dumb for you, but I know vain when I encounter one. 690 pictures? What about the 123456789 others? (this is an INSULT. Know the difference.)

Did I say you said that writing isn't everyone's privilege? I didn't. You're making things up. I stated that fact because everyone of us knew of it. It helps me get a better ground on WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THAT PRIVILEGE FROM ME. Yeah, so I'm crappy and could use reading comprehension and whatnot, frankly, WHAT'S IT TO YOU? I write whatever I want. YOU JUST SAID IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO.

Why would you volunteer to edit my work/s? Are you that desperate to put me down?

Again, I believe the statement went like this: You seem to be stalking me. There isn't any bit of 100% assurance in that. No, I don't think I'm popular (this is the kind of graceful answer that I want from you - which you are totally incapable of, I now see) - I don't even care. You go here, attracting my attention, when in the past three years of my membership in ffnet, I've been minding my own business, and you accuse me of thinking I'm popular? Save it, I'm not going to recommend you to reading comprehension classes.

Oh, and finally, I could use that advice. See? I accept criticisms. You just let your bad mouth lead the way.

9:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to ivybluesummers

Yes, yes. That's how I see it, judging from that mail. But I'm not Anon, nor anyone else but KanonA (come on, I've already explained). I don't care about how you get rid of chelating compounds, but I don't think this flame war is even cool. But since you've already identified yourself as 'amoral', it'd be better to shut up.

I posted her mail so that in some star-crossed sense, I might be of help in making ends meet, notwithstanding the inconsistencies and other obscenities. Then again, I don't know everything about it so I might as well leave it to you. My only concern is my name - HOW DID I EVER WOUND UP AT THE RECEIVING END OF THIS COLLECTIVE WRATH? (burning bush, why are you still reading? Butt out. I'm not talking to you.)

I think I can accept being insulted as an inconsistent, big time ethician, since I wouldn't want to side with people who are openly amoral as yourselves. But that's no insult - caffeine-addict's just warped that way, and ivybluesummers as well. However, I still don't particularly side with anyone involved.

There's nothing wrong in having this circle around - I mean, I can tell you're learning. It's just that don't flame, give constructive criticisms (I can imagine the sadistic, I-won't-take-any-misplaced-crap-from-mediocre-writers-such-as-yourself laugh from BYLT. Whatever. Suit yourselves). With the way your group is flaming, you're contradicting your statement, which is the freedom to any circle, rambling and nourishing egos, by defeating the much lesser groups' integrity, angering them, then a war like this starts to grow. Flaming must really suit caffeine-addict's need for the ego boost or educational trip, but really, ffnet isn't begging for it. If you want to flame, then this place is the perfect option.

9:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kanon



I’m not acquainted with courtesy? Who’s the first one who said ‘you moron’? I think it’s me, no wait, it’s Kanon A. See, dumby? Cut the cheesy insults please, you’re making a buffoon out of yourself. So I’m the one who first manifested anger? You’re funny, Will you reread your comments, you’re tiring, I don’t wanna call you a moron but your mental capacity is such that a fetus would seem like Jimmy Neutron at your side. Christ, check this out. You said, I’m a hypocrite, and you think I’m miserable because I said that you make people who disagree with me a lowlife or a loser, I SAID THAT BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT YOU THINK I’M A MISERABLE REJECT FOR HIDING IN ANONIMITY, DUMBY, DO YOU ALWAYS FORGET WHAT YOU HAVE JUST WRITTEN? OR DO YOU GET HELP FROM SOMEONE? ISN’T THAT THE SAME AS SAYING I’M A LOWLIFE AND A LOSER? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME IF YOU DON’T GET THIS, I REALLY REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD START READING; YOU CAN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND YOURSELF. READ MY VERY FIRST COMMENT, DID I SOUND ANGRY? YOUR HURLING BACK EVERYTHING I SAID, GO BACK TO 6TH GRADE YOU CAN’T EVEN READ WELL. AND FOR SAYING THAT YOU MAKE A LOSER OUT OF THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU MAKES ME A HYPOCRITE? I’m starting to think that you’re not just a hypocrite, you’re a hypocritical liar. I’m quite convinced that you DON’T know what hypocrite means. Didn’t I sound bold enough? Where’s the pretentiousness in my words? Where’s the hypocrisy in that when I stated what I think about you very clearly? What’s so insincere about that? Are you trying to imply that I think you’re really really good in writing but I have to express a different view for the sake of joining in the fun of bashing you? The problem with you is that you’d call me something without even clarifying. Tsk tsk tsk, please read the books your teachers require.

I’m explaining this again; this is why I think you’re a hypocrite. You said that you sucked, yet you got incensed because of my first comment which states that you’re not even good enough for the reviews you give. And you tell me I’m stupid. If you knew that you sucked, you wouldn’t have thrown insults at me, which are by the way, really lame. And don’t try to deny that you were trying to insult me. You could have simply accepted the fact that you’re not good enough but you had to retaliate, which goes to show that you haven’t really accepted that you suck.



You said that writing is pretty much everyone’s privilege, why did you have to state that? Did I state anything that contradicts that? Or did you just wanna say that to sound noble?

Oh, and YOU GOTTA BE THE WORLD’S GREATEST HYPOCRITE. YOU TELL ME TO TELL YOU OFF GRACEFULLY WHEN YOU CALLED ME A MORON? Only people like you would consent to that. Are you implying that you’re not used to the harsh remarks I said about you? Then why call me names? Moron? Really, Chelating Compounds is now a really sincere person. Please, do yourself a favor and be CONSISTENT for a day.


I am not worshipping Strider, what I was trying to say was that the first IMPRESSION PEOPLE WOULD GET FROM THAT REVIEW IS THAT YOU ARE HARD TO PLEASE, but didn’t you understand me? It was as though you were trying to imply that you could have done better, could’ve made a better development of that scene than Strider did, because if you couldn’t then you could have said something else like, ‘well-written’, remove ‘enough’. Get it? I don’t think so.

I sold myself too much already? What are the things I said that revealed a lot about me? I’m not the one who told everyone that I suck and a lowlife and an anime and Jpop junkie…hey that’s you! I’m not the one who called someone a moron and asked him to put things gracefully. YOU’RE LIKE A LITTLE GIRL WHO TRIES SO HARD TO SOUND CUTE AND INNOCENT BY ASKING SOMEONE TO TELL HER OFF NICELY.


About that shrink thing, have you heard of figures of speech? Hyperbole? I bet you haven’t, because you didn’t get it. I learned about that in 8th grade, I was thirteen, how old are you? Please pay more attention to your English professor. Did you honestly think I’d compare you to my shrink? I used that to express the absurdity of your view about old people.


If you weren’t dying to insult me (hyperbole) why would you think twice of calling me a retard? Or implied I’m stupid? Defensive? Weren’t you trying to insult me by asking that (are you wrinkly)? If I asked you, ‘are you a retard’? Why would I have to ask that if I’m not thinking twice about your normality? I’m not expecting you to understand this right away.

I volunteered to edit your work? I asked, ‘want me to mst your work?’ That’s an offer, I didn’t say ‘I’ll mst your work.’


I have a bad mouth? how many times did I curse or say ‘moron’ ‘retard’ and ‘stupid’? Do you know what bad mouth means?



I take back what I said about you having a mental capacity of that of a fetus, you’re probably just an embryo.





Burning bush

10:59 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kanon A


Don't be a fucking retard, you sound mad, are you trying to fool us by stating that someone else first manifested anger? Honestly, you're so good at contradicting yourself. Now you're saying that you're a hypocrite? How low can you get? When from the start you were accusing someone here for sounding hypocritical? or were you just trying to talk to yourself?

11:07 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to burning bush:

I called you a moron because you THOUGHT I referred to chelating compounds remarkS, when I was only referring to ONE she made. Unfortunately, mistaking one for many is very critical. I'm not picking at that grammatical mistake you made - it's just that when you tell off the world that I called all of chelating compounds remarkS, that's when I'm contradicting myself. But I only told you about one, and the story behind it.

I actually took your advice, reread our previous exchanges, and I really didn't find any anger in any of mine (yeah, yeah, so talks the buffoon with the affinity for lame insults - I guess being impeccably honest at this kind of war is like wanting to be a sweet, snotty little girl again, with that totally fucked up lollipop for good stress, which is a no-no itself). You're the one who started it; you tell me calling you something as feeble as a 'moron' manifests my anger, and yet, how about the all-true things you said about me? Can we classify that as 'anger' on your part? I called you a moron because it was true. You called all those names because they were true. Where's the anger in that? You were the first one who applied block letters, in any case.

Yes, I did say you are a 'miserable reject hiding in anonymity'. Yes, you did say that I male anyone who disagrees with me a loser or a lowlife. I called you miserable because you were hiding in anonymity, not because you disagreed with me. What are you so stressed about that?

I'm implying something for myself? With the way you're shedding all over me, you don't give me enough space to do that. I haven't been implying anything to gain respect from any of you. Can you not tell? I'm just answering back, clearing things. But no, you always come back with something to make matters worse. I've already accepted your views about me, so why are you still firing? Because I called you stupid?

How can I not retaliate if you wouldn't stop? How can I just let you have the last word? Setting my mediocrity aside, I still have the ego. Even scum have that.

I'm explaining this again; this is why I stated 'writing is privilege to anyone': Yeah, so I'm crappy and could use reading comprehension and whatnot, frankly, WHAT'S IT TO YOU? I write whatever I want. YOU JUST SAID IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO. If you'd just notice, I'm not barking back as to defend my fanfiction writing - dude, I've already gone naked about it several times. I'm crappy, but that's none of your business. You gave me a piece of your mind, and that's it, I can't do anything about it. But no, you're very consistent, I should look up to you if I'm that inconsistent, rubbing that in my face, and making me look like the idiot and hypocrite you want me to be by making it appear that I'm trying to save my face from your criticisms. Hopefully, YOU understand that. If not, then maybe you're just evaporated hot gas.

You're that hurt by ME, of ALL people, just because I called you a MORON? If you didn't do something to earn that respect from me (which was mistaking remark for remarkS and therefore making my image look bad in all the events that followed after), I wouldn't. Who's angry now, when you tell me I'm the greatest hypocrite, just by being called that? It's a harmless scab. It sticks to you, whether you feel it or not.

You're worked up because of the word 'ENOUGH'? I understand what you were trying to say on the first place, but you just had to make it appear that I don't. THIS IS THE EXPLANATION FOR THAT, okay? I was referring to her 'CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT', which I think was great, and not her 'SCENE DEVELOPMENT', as you have been egging on me. If only you'd check that review out (check out her latest RuHana fic - the one with the bike), you'd see that I didn't review with 'WELL-WRITTEN ENOUGH'. Another point for you, moron. This is the third time. I said 'YOU GOT THEM WELL ENOUGH', indicating that I was picking on her CHARACTERIZATION, not on the way she was able to write the thing. What, still think I'm thinking so highly of myself that I could have done better? No fan can assume the perfect characters - only Inoue himself can do that. What I told her was just a notch below the perfect. You're still angry?

I only call you stupid when you deserve it, because you've already implied that you're so great, that you don't need it at all. I give you that. I asked if you were wrinkly as to give sense to why you're so biased about untalented, immature youngsters. It wasn't an insult - old people are really that pessimistic. I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I WAS THINKING TWICE ABOUT YOUR AGE. Complies with your rule, no?

Asking 'Want me to mst you work' is like hinting your unpaid service. If by any chance I said, 'yes, please', you would have went on your way, editing, cackling when you come across a pageful of errors. That's volunteering upon consent.

Yes, I think you fairly have a bad mouth. Not necessarily by calling names or cursing, but with the way you're stuffing things in my mouth and redirecting the flow of this argument to your favor (see, a new, fresh, green diplomat thinks I'm the bad guy), that's the bad mouth I'm talking about.

You call me an embryo, because I'm insufferably stupid, but when I think you're a moron because you can't understand what I'm saying, you reload artillery and fire away. Isn't that a basic show of hypocrisy? And you can't seem to believe it when I call you one.

3:33 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the new anonymous

Who are you? :) In any case, I'm not talking to you. It should have been obvious.

3:35 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kanon A



Ok, you called me a hypocrite so from now on I will say what I really think about you.
Sincerely speaking, I really think that you are a good author, very good in fact that you are already 16 years old and you have just learned how to use ‘its’ properly and you are still struggling with your tenses and you can’t identify figures of speech. Your writing is so impressive, ivyblusummers and Night Strider and Bet You Love That should be ashamed of themselves. I really adore you for admitting that you suck and it’s so noble of you to throw in comments like ‘you moron’ to someone who said that you should edit your fics before you upload them.


I really DON’T think that you’re a hypocrite because you called me a moron and asked me to put things gracefully to you and even said that I am not courteous enough to you. You are the very epitome of someone who has NEVER contradicted herself. That remark is so not hypocritical, it’s honesty. I really think that you were NOT the first one to manifest anger when the opening line of your second comment is ‘you moron’, no, you were not angry, right? You were being friendly that’s why you put a smiley after your comments. And you sounded really courteous, really. My implications are too harsh for that decent principles of yours, you probably couldn’t bear it.

And you are so much the very opposite of a hypocritical liar that you said that you write for yourself and then post your fics in FFN. You are truly writing for yourself because you placed your works there where ANYONE can read it. That is NOT contradictory, they’re actually in perfect harmony.

I really think that you should continue giving out comments like ‘well-written enough’ to writers like Night Strider because you are so much better than she is, really. You were obviously not trying to sound hard to please. Your standards are too high because you have learned how to use ‘its’.


Your generalization of old people should be regarded as a proverb because it has so much wisdom in it and probably EVERY old person in your country is like that. I am comparing your philosophies to that of my shrink because you actually know better than she does. I was really the FIRST one to manifest anger because you were the first one to say that you think that I am a miserable reject, a VERY precise assumption because after posting my two or three-paragraph comment about you, you concluded that I am indeed a miserable reject. You probably have psychic powers. What you said was something that LOSERS would NOT have said, you know, insulting someone without basis or grounds. And I am really stalking you because I am so interested in someone like you, because as I have mentioned, I really really think that you are one of the best writers here. I can’t stop thinking about you at night, I can’t believe that, with your writing skills, you could have given George Elliot a run for her money. I wouldn’t stalk someone like Strider, ivybluesummers, Caffeine Addict and BYLT because they are nowhere near your talents. I know so much about you because I am stalking you, because of course, you DIDN’T give away too much of yourself, you just said that you’re a lowlife, you don’t read books, you like anime so much and Disney channel, you suck in writing, you live in an impoverished country with veteran citizens who are very pessimistic about the future and proved that you are NOT a hypocrite by calling me a hypocrite. I, on the other hand, have flaunted everything I have and everything that I am by describing my hobbies. You’re opinion of those who hide in anonymity is a winner, really, it was as though it was taken directly from the mouth of a genius, they are all gossip-makers and stuff, that’s so precise, you are completely generalizing them but this attack has nothing to do with the argument remember? You could have defended yourself from my statements but you had to attack that instead, saying that I’m probably a miserable reject, that was so much a part of the argument, really.
I am really the bad mouth here because if you read all my comments, they’re actually full of curses and name-callings but before you see that, you have to have Kanon’s logic. And now you’re claiming that you are a hypocrite? Wow, you DIDN’T breakdown, I guess, because a while ago you were accusing me of being a hypocrite and now you’re admitting that you are the one? That is so CONSISTENT, you are even more consistent that Chelating Compounds herself.


I am the hypocrite here because the first things I said about you were contrary to my original view. I think you KNOW what hypocrite means, you even told me why I am a hypocrite; it’s because I said that you insult those who do not disagree with you by saying that they’re probably miserable rejects. That, people, is the true meaning of hypocrisy. It’s not about being pretentious and insincere, it’s about thinking negatively of others like Kanon A. I should announce that ORIGINAL definition to the writers of webster’s.


Again, Kanon A is not a hypocrite, her statements do NOT contradict each other. Really.


-------------burning bush

8:28 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the fuss about? Because I called you a hypocrite and a moron? Can't stand it, so you throw things back at me, all the way calling me inconsistent? I should be indignant, becasue by the you put your logic in things, I should call you a hypocrite because you called me a hypocrite because I called you one. Same goes for 'moron', 'idiot', 'fetus', 'embryo', whatever.

Conversation with you doesn't arrive at any sense at all. I'm not saying it's your fault, but it's not entirely mine either. You refuse to understand me (i.e. the thing about the review on Night Strider's fic), call me inconsistent, call me a hypocrite, call me angry (again, is something as feeble as 'moron' a plausible manifestation of wrath? That kind of makes the holocaust a grave mistake of an understatement, then. I CALLED YOU A MORON, AS ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DEGRADE ANOTHER IN SUCH A WAY WHEN THE OCCASION CALLS FOR IT, BECAUSE YOU REFUSE OR YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE WAY I DEFEND MYSELF. Instead of understanding, you scoff on it, attack it, making me see how much better you are), and all other things, when it's you who don't understand.

You know what? I'm tired of arguing with you. Call it cowardice if you must, but I don't care anymore. All of you seemed intent on not listening to me anyway. I take back what I said -- I won't retaliate anymore, you can have the last word and/or laugh, I don't care.

Oh, and for you benefit, you seemed to be gloating on that bit I made about conceding to the 'its' advice you gave. It's a figure of speech. Hyperbole. The finger's automatic on the apostrophe, so it's a convulsive phenomenon; can't do much about it. (In short, they're adamant typos. Pft, like you'd believe something like that. Whatever.) I'm a fetus, remember?

Really, I'm not angry, but maybe you are? Whatever. I don't care.

7:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kanona


If you read your something like, ‘well-written’, what does it convey? It means that it is written in a good and proper manner, therefore, above average. If you add ‘enough in the end, it suggests sufficiency, just enough goodness as it needs. If you’re gonna buy your way out by saying that I make too much fuss about the word ‘enough’ maybe you should look up its meaning in the dictionary before using it. Now, you’re talking about characterization. You said that Inoue is the only who can perfectly present each character, no other writer can. Have you always reviewed like that? Always judging by Inoue’s standards when you know no one could actually portray his characters as well as he does? If that were the case, I guess you’ve never given a review that says ‘well-written’. You knew it in the first place but still, you went on picking on characterization when you yourself couldn’t have done any better? What, you don’t think twice of considering your own skills before judging something? That’d be absurd.

You said that Chelating C left a peaceful remark, ok, it’s remark, not remarks, I made a mistake, what’s so moronic about that? It’s a matter of quantity yeah, but every remark that CC left is, well, if not hypocritical, is never near peaceful. Which one were you referring to? Oh, you were referring to ivybluesummer’s fic. You call that peaceful when she didn’t even read the rest of the fic? And oh, the whole point of her review was that ivy’s fic is peppered with grammatical errors. Or are you siding with her to satisfy your deep-rooted insecurity with the author’s skills? CC said; for someone who claims to be a good writer (or I whatever, something like that), your work is peppered with grammatical errors blah blah blah, and she seemed to be implying that ivy shouldn’t flame because he himself could not write properly. She even pointed why it was allegedly ‘peppered’ with grammatical errors when as it has been made clear, what she referred to as a punctuation error is not an error. You know why we knew that she didn’t read the fic? Because in the story, Kogure was teaching Rukawa to speak proper English, Queen Hypocritta must have just scanned the fic and spotted Rukawa’s dialogues and then attacked her keyboard without reading properly. She even accused ivy of lambasting the author because of her educational origins. That was funny. CC should have been named the new Pope. The remark was peaceful when she obviously flamed ivy because ivy criticized crazybutterfly’s fic, otherwise, Queen Hypocritta wouldn’t have known ivybluesummers. If she is really as moralistic as she claims, she could’ve just ignored ivy because honestly, there was nothing insulting about his flame for that crazybutterfly fic. But no, she assumed that ivy is someone who lambastes other authors so she had to go out of her moralistic way to teach ivy a lesson when obviously she wasn’t, in the least, interested in his fic, she was dying to get her hands on the author. It’s either that or she wants a first class ticket to Gimme Attention Airlines. Well, her review was probably peaceful but you can’t deny the hypocrisy in it, which is worse than giving violent remarks.


Will you point it out to me, where and when did I imply that I am so great? Oh, you asked that ‘are you wrinkly’ because you were thinking twice about my age? You said that you’re third grade sister could immediately answer that with ‘no’. Don’t tell me that wrinkly is not a negative description, if I asked you, ‘are you a hypocrite?’, doesn’t that suggest that I really think you are a hypocrite?Again, too much hypocrisy would not help, you could have asked my age because if you asked if I were wrinkly, I could have been 20-100 years old. Or is that your way of forcing humor?


I really don’t understand why you have to say that I was the first one to manifest anger. First, I said things about you and you retaliated with something like this; Are you my conscience? (Pilfered from Finding Nemo, happy? So I waste my time in Disney blah blah blah) wow, you DIDN’T sound pissed, really, you had to credit where you got that line when no one was asking and I didn’t even imply that I wanted to know where you got that. You had to point that out because you were expecting that I’d insult the originality of that comment therefore you assumed that I was some annoying nitpicking git who could spot any bad spot behind your comments. Tell me, what’s so hostile about my first comment that you have to reply like this? You even assumed that I’m a miserable reject and a gossip-maker because of my anonymity, which has nothing to do with the argument I presented but you had to attack that instead for the sake giving me rebut. You should talk to my parents because you know me better than they do, go on, convince them that I’m a miserable reject, that’d make you happy. Who knows who so well now? First, I attacked the way review, and that’s that, you, on the other hand attacked my ‘condition’ (miserable reject, remember?) which was, well, not even apparent. Now you’re telling me that you were not mad when you said that? You said you said that because you’re really considering that I’m a miserable reject? I’m sorry, but I have to conclude that you are one miserable loser. Ok, just for now, I’ll assume that condition, I’ll join you for a day and be a miserable reject so you’d be satisfied, happy? I bet you fell like a million bucks.


I asked you if you want me to mst your fic, if you said no, I’d leave it alone, that’s why I asked. You said I volunteered, do you know why people volunteer? It’s because someone asked them a favor or they want to give services in their own free will, clearly you didn’t ask me to mst your work so I did not volunteer, have you said yes to my offer, I would have been murdering myself right now with your fic. I said ‘want me to your work?’, I could’ve said I’ll mst your work if I really want to do it. I’d love to point out your mistakes in your fic but I knew I had to think it over because there are too many of them and the work would certainly be tiring. Volunteering upon consent, why, did you consent in the first place?

I’m stuffing things to your mouth? So it’s my responsibility that you’re making a loser out of yourself? If you could have just been less hostile, you might have gained more respect from anyone here. Sadly, you had to resort to name-callings and promote hypocrisy and show your inconsistency rather than just ignore someone whom you regarded as a miserable reject. Obviously, you want to give your take on me a shot. You call that a bad mouth? It’s more of a bad influence. Can’t you even tell that I could have called you a moron after every sentence but I had to abstain from that for the sake of not seeming like a brat? I was trying to be nice, I really was.

You asked me why I’m still firing when you knew you have just called me stupid? Who would wanna let that go if it came from your mouth? Even a retard would be insulted if someone like you called him a moron. You were just answering things back? Oh, man, concluding that I’m a miserable reject and a gossip-maker actually answered and clarified things for me. Wow, that was so helpful, thank you very much, it changed what I really thought about you, really, I couldn’t have given a better answer. You’re funny.


Oh, I earned that sort of respect for mistaking remark from remarks? I think I am not mistaken for suspecting that you were just an embryo, am I? You got mad because you looked bad after I spilled that you sided with Chelating’s remarks, well here’s the compensation:



EVERYONE, KANONA THINKS THAT CC’S REVIEW FOR IVYBLUESUMMERS IS RATHER PEACEFUL, AND THAT’S THAT, SO FORGIVE ME WHEN I SAID REMARKS WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY JUST REMARK.
Don’t you guys also think that it’s a really peaceful remark?


Happy?



Burning bush

8:25 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kanona

You called me a hpocrite because I called you a hypocrite when you called me one? AARGh, grab a dictionary and look up the word's meaning please!You're hopeless...

8:28 PM

 
Blogger The Denizen of the Dark said...

FUCK MY WORK! I need, to say that though. I’ve been too busy I have no time to check this out. Man, I can’t even take shower twice a day.


So…


Why does my name keep on circulating in (almost) each comment? And this KanonA and Anon thing gets me dizzy. Whatever…


Caffeine addict: Did I just read your statement right? Someone called me pathetic because I defended ivybluesummers’ fic from chelating compounds’, er pardon me, stupidity? What has heaven come into?

Let me justify myself: I said those harsh words to her (chelating compounds) because;

1) She flamed ivybluesummers without even reading the fic. She accused the story of being ‘peppered with grammatical errors’ when the grammatical errors are deliberate because in the story, Kogure is teaching Rukawa correct grammar via a quasi True or False style. Naturally, Kogure would have to ask if this/that sentence is correct or not; so if chanced that the answer is FALSE; then that’s because the example given by Kogure is grammatically INCORRECT. Clearly, the author intended to commit those errors for the sake of portraying the very simple scene where Kogure teaches the freshman correct grammar.

I’m not convinced that ivybluesummers is capable of NOT knowing grammar as to pepper errors on her own fic.


2) She accused ivybluesummers of ‘claiming to be good in English.’ No, if there’s someone who claims loudly of her greatness in English, it’s ME. Not ivybluesummers. I read his blog almost everyday, and never did he mention that he IS good in English (though I honestly, truthfully, and whole heartedly believe that he is THAT good in English). I’m the one who does that.

3) She accused ivybluesummers of ‘lambasting shatteredteardrops because of the latter’s educational origins.’ No, he did not. Just read his review again. Ivybluesummers is of the same alma mater; so what’s the point of looking down on someone of the same school because of his school? Get it? I hope so, very much actually.

4) Ivybluesummers’ review is NOT a flame. It’s a criticism, a way to express his dissatisfaction towards certain points of the said prose. Read it again and see how brilliantly he enumerates in details the flaws of the author’s story. If you see it as a flame; then I would see myself in very right position that chelating compounds is a mere flamer too, nothing more nothing less.

5) Chelating compounds said that what ivybluesummers did ‘is downright low’ (and I think somebody even echoed her). But what CC did is she flamed Ivy because the latter flamed some other author. I personally think that that deed is more unspeakable. It begs to be dragged to the limelight for the sole reason of expressing her anger to ivybluesummers, which is so shameful because ivybluesummers did NOT even offend her in the first place. If there was someone who could’ve been offended; it’s shatteredteardrops and from what I gather, shatteredteardrops nobly accepted ivy’s comments. Why can’t CC do that, may I ask? Jesus forgave the Jews; so must his disciples.

6) To entail argument number 5, it so implies that ivybluesummers has no right to flame/criticize anyone (when he did not even flame the story), and that applies to me, you, and everybody. But Chelating Compounds seems to have excluded herself from that ban. Why? Because she went on to flame others, me for instance. And I can say that her review is a flame because there was not even a sentence to back her assumption up. Her point? I don’t know.

7) CC got a little (or should I say ‘too’) frenzied at the sight of ivy’s new fic that she just latched on the opportunity to nitpick him. That (I’m very sorry for the language) STUPID complaint on the use of comma could’ve beaten the sinful hilarity of Jay Leno’s filthy jokes in no time flat. If Chelating Compounds does read anything then she might find out that there’s such a thing called ASYNDENTON in the English language which allows anyone to punctuate his sentence/dialogue with a comma. Every writer I’ve read does/did that, so excuse them.



If that’s pathetic then fine. I don’t think it is. I defended ivybluesummers and I know I did it quite well and I’m proud of it. I never said that some people other than my lot have NO right to flame. I’ve flamed a lot of OC fics, I know that. BUT what I want to say is; flame sensibly and don’t flame an author just because he flames/criticizes other people. Chelating compounds has violated that for all I know. And I’m not even fully aware of her issues with Dorian and caffeine addict. I know caffeine has been saying again and again that chelating compounds talks as if she’s the only one who has the authority to flame/criticize, and trust me, she really does. I think I’m being reasonable, ergo, caffeine addict is too. If I’m not making myself clear, then I hope for your sake that you’ll ever learn how to spell your own name.


Night Strider


PS. BYLT, e-mail me.

6:21 AM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

Caffeine-Addict: you can still review anonymously with your penname in, right? oh well... i guess she blocked me too.

beh. i was supposed to post a comment regarding Chelating Compounds' flame but Night Strider (thanks for saving me from speaking the whole thing again) already spoke my thoughts... i just have to further it then.

i'll tell you more what's wrong with her flame:
(1) There is a confusion somewhere. First, Kogure called him Rukawa, then Kaede. Are they in that stage already? You do know that it is customary in Japanese to call someone by their family names, unless they are close friends.
--> I MADE KOGURE SPEAK OF RUKAWA'S FIRST NAME BECAUSE OF A SEMIOTIC PURPOSE, THAT IS, TO SIGNIFY SERIOUSNSESS; THERE WOULD BE CONFUSION ON THE PART OF THE READER IF HE/SHE DID NOT UNDERSTAND IF NOT READ THE WHOLE FIC. i would be grateful if you'd understand this argument.

(2) By the way, it should be Rukawa Kaede, not Kaede Rukawa. Family name first. This is a Japanese name we are talking about.
--> I messed up their names and the whole point is that my fic is rubbish. So what if I messed up their names? Would that make a grammatical error? That's just... funny.

(3) Didn’t know Rukawa could feel guilt. I thought he has no emotions. And he said the word ‘sorry’? A lot of times, too. OOCness. Don't look at me. This is the prevalent belief amongst the writers here. Personally, I do not believe he is that unemotional.
--> So Rukawa was atypical, what can I say... these sentences are very funny because if you'd analyze closely, Chelating Compounds missed the point of her own flame; try to read the last and second sentences. IF SHE TOLD ME THAT RUKAWA WAS OOC, THEN WHY THE HELL DID SHE PROFESS THAT THE RAVEN-HAIRED IS UNEMOTIONAL? why didn't she flame that darn shattered teardrops (because rukawa became gary stu when the former was supposed to be an original character)? why didn't she flame other fanfics that are dyed in the wool because of cliched plot, oocness and very poor grammar among others?

why is she defending authors who don't even know the difference between "you're" and "your" then flame those who exerted good if not great effort at writing? is she that needy of attention? and why the hell is she implying ethics when she, in the first place, is the most unethical? and please, don't try asking me the verifiability of this paradox.
---
i honestly think someone needs to start paying attention to what the hell "circle of intellectuals" is saying against the inconsistency and ethical hypocrisy of Chelating Compounds. thanks.

7:59 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NightStrider: KanonA made an entry in her LiveJournal (she'd already erased it) and stated you, ivy and pollux as pathetic because you flamed 'stupidity' back. She said there was 'favoritism' involved and you guys could not accept ciriticsm but were bold to give others criticism. She also thought 'stupidity' is true. She also admits she's a hypocrite, in case if anyone decided to gave her blog a visit they'd know the REAL her. Something like that.

Ivy: I already put in my constructive citicism to that crap, and I gave her 7 days. I'm pretending as a male 'Sadako' of 'Ringu' so I gave her a week. If she does not do anything to correct her fiction I''ll give her a taste of death. :D

To anyone who dare to challenge my atrocity, you should know by now, that the scum who's fuming is actually the softer side of me. The real monster within me emerged when I answered to KanonA so don't let it out.

9:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must apologize to ivybluesummers for referring to her review for crazybutterfly as a flame (see my comment before this), I’m really used to using the word so sorry about that, my bad.


To Night Strider, I’m sorry if I keep mentioning your name but I have to say that you’re also a victim in this CC issue. Actually, I find CC’s review for you more amusing than that of ivy’s. It was more obvious that the loser didn’t read yours and she sounded more stupid (that is, if she could get any stupider).


Ok, so Chelating Compounds is all about hypocrisy and inconsistency, we all know that already. Apparently, you forgot to count insecure little peewee, prophet of false accusations, a liar, attention whore, and many, many more.


She’s insecure because she indulges herself with fics from incompetent authors like crazy butterfly and shattered teardrops but fics from writers with wide vocabulary are way out of her league and she couldn’t bear reading them so she has to flame them. She has to nitpick the works of ivybluesummers and N. Strider because she said she expected too much from them. She didn’t realize that she was degrading herself for doing so- see the fuckingly ridiculous flames she gave these authors. But, I digress, why do I say she’s insecure? Because she actually thinks that ivybluesummers is good in English, do you know why I say this?

She said: For someone who claims that he is good in English yada yada yada.

Strider claimed that ivy never claimed to be an English God and I think Strider knows him well enough. Chelating Compounds, where did that fucking come from? I’ll answer that for you, it came from the bottom of your heart. You have read ivy’s review for the very dumb crazybutterfly and shattered teardroppings and learned that he is indeed good in English. You had to come up with a story, you had to make ivybluesummers look bad because no one is supposed to be contesting your critical skills so you had to shove it to his face that he was lambasting crazybutterfly or shattered tears. You wanted to eliminate someone like him in your competition. Can you expand; why did you use the word ‘lambaste’ when it was clearly not even a fucking flame? I think I know why, you wanted to show the world that you knew how to use the word ‘lambaste’ in a sentence. Bravo! Quite near, you were not able to use it in a correct context though. If you call that lambasting, what would you call your review for coffee mav’s fic? Murdering? If you said that ivy claimed to be very good in English with her review for shattered tears then what would you make of yourself when you criticized coffee maverick? A self-proclaimed reincarnation of Virginia Wolfe? Oh, I forgot, you are Queen Hypocritta, you are the only one who has the right to criticize others. Don’t tell me that you think ivybluesummers was giving out air of being superior in English because of that review for shattered tears. Christ, I don’t really know what to make of you, honestly speaking, you’re really really really really…dumb, in a grave manner.

‘A flame war will not help the author’, Oh, that’s something new, so new in fact that I had to ask myself 600 times if this statement really applies. How would you describe a flame? It’s a harsh comment, usually defamatory and offensive, even personal, so, like, duh, how is that supposed to help an author? Like, you thought you were the only one who knew that? It’s like this, if Caffeine Addict and Dorian Ghey wanted to help the author in the first place, they wouldn’t have flamed her. Consequently, stating what’s obviously true is highly unnecessary…well, it was probably necessary for you to augment your reputation as the queen of hypocrisy.



Prophet of false accusations, that’s you CC, you boldly stated that ivy was lambasting crazybutterfly because he asked if that retard was from UPLB. Gadammit, you gotta be the world’s greatest slanderer, I’m not gonna ask you to prove yourself right for what you said about that educational origin issue, people are already farting all over the place for laughing at your stupidity. I think you should join someone and it would do you good to study English comprehension together. You had enough courage to accuse ivy of writing something peppered with grammatical errors when you couldn’t even tell the difference between a question and lambasting. Well, that explains why you thought it was peppered with grammatical errors; it’s because you didn’t understand the piece in the first place and what you don’t understand, you regard as something wrong.


To save the world from being polluted with fart, I’m not gonna get into your flame for Nightstrider for that Mitsui x OC fic. Even Jimmy Neutron’s dad could never be as stupid as you are. Before you bite, make sure that what you’re digging your teeth into is edible. Just this: do yourself a favor and ask your teacher what a Mary Sue is.


A liar. A fucking liar. She has made it clear that the reason why she flamed ivy and strider is because she was expecting too much from them. Why would she expect too much from both? Does she know them very well? CC learned about the two writers because she read reviews from both for the stories she read. CC felt offended because both were giving out sensible reviews or criticisms that she felt that she was being pushed away from the spotlight so she felt insecure. If she was ONLY expecting too much from both and was NOT affected by their reviews for crazybutterfly and shattered tears and some other fics, why flame only both of them? Why only flame those who criticized crazybutterfly and shattered tears? Are they the only writers here who are worth expecting too much from? It’s simply revenge. She was dying of insecurity, that’s that. She was so affected, she even risked straying her path and losing consistency for the sake of contradicting them.


Attention whore. She flamed unflamed stories and sided with flamed ones even though the flamed ones are more severely flawed than the unflamed. Because crazybutterfly wouldn’t have received such flames from CA and DG if it wasn’t that absurdly crappy. Clearly, she wanted to make everyone know that her opinions are unique and that she’s not clichéd. But in the process, she destroyed consistency and uhm, gave me a reason to fart all day. The benefit of all of these for you, CC, is that you are now gathering tons of attention! Hurrah!

PS: I'm not surprised that kanona called Strider, ivy and pollux pathetic, stupid people like her are so prdictable, so consider that as a favor for her because she's so pathetic she has to believe that you guys are pathetic, really, ride with her for a day, it may cure her idiocy for that day.



Yours truly,

Burning Bush aka __h__h

10:41 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know why kanon a admits that she's a hypocrite, it's because she can no longer throw anything at us anymore so she had nothing left to defend herself and obviously, she wants us to leave her alone, but she couldn't say the exact same words because she might look like a coward.


Burning George Bush

10:45 AM

 
Blogger aria said...

Caffeine Addict, someone called me pathetic? I’m Pollux, by the way. The problem with people today is that if you contradict their flames they’d throw in something like, ‘you guys are stupid’ ‘you’re pathetic’ followed by ‘you’re insecure’ which would eventually lead to ‘get a life, you lowlife’. Insults that have no basis, that’s why they wouldn’t bother to prove that you are indeed pathetic. And honestly, I think the reason why we don’t use these insults is that they suggest insecurity and lack of rebut and sense of intellect to prove themselves right. They can just simply say ‘leave me alone’ because that conveys more meaning, it doesn’t offend anyone.


Now, if what I said to Chelating Compounds (see my review for ivybluesummers) is pathetic, Kanon A must have been implying that we should’ve let it go. This is why I didn’t let it pass: CC’s flame for ivybluesummers, from what I gather, is a proof that she was dying to get her hands on the author and it also showed everyone how stupid she was. Yes, you might have said that I went over the roof for saying too much and imposing too much sense on someone who didn’t make sense at all, my point is this: she HAS to learn from her mistake. Had we ignored her, she would’ve flamed others too with nonsensical nitpicking. And I think we all know here that knowing one’s mistake is important that’s why I gave her a lesson. Or maybe, you see your teachers as pathetic for expecting her dumb students to learn.

If you are accusing me of favoritism, Kanon A, I can simply explain myself with my adoration for ivybluesummers and night strider. And since they are two of my favorite authors, I know them very well, your point? Of course I would defend them right away if they are threatened or offended, that is, if I have enough knowledge to counter them. In CC’s case, even my 9-year old cousin could see through her error, I just made it a point that she would see to that.

If you called us pathetic because you felt bitterness in our reply to her, we would be glad to hear you out. And you said we can’t accept criticism, what CC gave to ivy was not even a criticism at all, to criticize is to judge the merits and faults of something, to analyze and evaluate, clearly, there was absolutely not a droplet of correctness in CC’s review. In short, it was a false criticism. If I found CC a very intellectual person for all she said in that flame and envied her, then that’s when I would deserve to be called pathetic. Sadly, I’m not pining to be a dingbat nor am I contesting her in inconsistency competition so I don’t see the point of being bitter when everything she said was, I’m sorry for this, stupid.

Maybe you should email me about your definition of pathetic.


ariaofthewind@yahoo.com


To burning bush, no, i was surprised when someone called me pathetic because it came from someone i didn't even know.

----Pollux

9:27 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pollux:Well, there was an entry that was made by KanonA, in which she had deleted, and she called you pathetic for defending ivy. I don't wanna prolong this silly quarrel with her. I sense a very vast insecurity and confusion within her. She was not as bad as, say, CrazyButterfly, so she doesn't have to be too insecure in the first place. Her counter-arguments were weak, and I could have countered it even more, but it would only add more damage to her.

I wish someone would save her though.

caffeine-addict

11:47 PM

 
Blogger The Denizen of the Dark said...

caffeine addict: Well, I guess there are people whom you can NEVER make understand things that require psychoanalogy. There are those who would call others 'pathetic' and ask them to get a life because they simply can't understand them. If KanonA/Anonymous even did something to back her statement up, I would've let the whole thing though and kept quiet but she failed to see how stupid chelating compounds' flame to ivy is. And she said we can't take criticisms? I definitely CAN'T take criticisms coming from someone who I know is 184875873485 notches below me (and you and ivy and Pollux and BYLT for that matter)in terms of intelligence. I know there are people like Chelating Compounds whose IQ doesn't even reach the teens but I would forgive that fact if she argued quite sensibly but clearly she did NOT. Oh well. I've said all over again that if there's something I can't take, it's stupidity plus arrogance. If she doesn't understand the whole thing, might as well stop calling others pathetic.

7:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

burning bush: I'm going to take back what I supposedly took back; you can't seem to get enough of yourself, thinking you've silenced me. You keep on insisting that you don't deserve to be called a moron just because you mistook 'remark' for 'remarks'. Yeah, it matters quantity, but that mistake, as I've once said, is CRITICAL; it'd make me appear all-knowing about the issue with chelating compounds, when I'm really not, and you guys would just have the FALSE grounds to beat me up. I didn't want that. Being manipulative isn't really that bad, but at the expense of another's name, I think it is.

About that 'well-written enough' review on Night Strider's fic, of all people, it still doesn't exist, and you're a moron to keep insisting otherwise, despite me having explained THRICE. I once challenged you to burrow through what ruins of a review history I have, and dig out that 'well-written enough' review, to which you didn't respond. I've checked my review history over and over again, politely thinking that I maybe at fault for not remembering, but there's no such review. You see, the actual review went like this:

I've always thought that Rukawa's the kind of guy who'd hyperventilate secretly, but let almost nothing out ("Over my dead, handsome body"). And the fact that Sakuragi hates being indebted to anyone. You got them well enough. Nice work, keep up.

p.s. Yes, Rukawa is really like that.
p.s.s it would be pointless to remind you, but Sakuragi has his own bike. It's red. And he can ride it faster than a car.


Would you kindly point out just where I've gone wrong and patronized Night Strider, OF ALL PEOPLE? And you protest about how I compare fanfiction to Inoue - of course, how else would I have the basis to surmise an OOC fic as OOC? And seeing as how I'm helplessly inclined towards nothing intellectual but anime and fanfiction, you should have took that as a hint that I'm too acquainted with the Slam Dunk anime to forgive OOC fanfiction characters. It is offensive.

Oh, and I don't remember mentioning particular names in that erstwhile entry of mine. (You see how facts are twisted to suit the purpose of war.) That thing with the review on ivybluesummers was stupid itself, but why bite back? That's when the word 'pathetic' comes in. burning bush, please please stop calling others a hypocrite when you yourself can't stop being one.

caffeine addict: I erased that entry because it seemed to be making things worse. Talk about freedom of speech. You're all chasing me with straws and a matchbox. Anyway.

Are you threatening me? I couldn't possibly think of anything worse than what's happening lately, and I'd be fooling myself if I said I'm perfectly fine. I don't know what I did to you to earn such promising wrath, and if only you'd kindly tell me, I'd be grateful. However, you can always do whatever you want. I mean, who am I to pull on your brakes?

moronic mikey: I checked out that 'shit' review you're talking about. I didn't call her fic as such, it was a personal expression. I'm not flaming; I never had the courage to, because it could always come back to me. But please, don't deny that what you guys do isn't flaming, especially for guys like BYLT who has ardently professed of nonhumanitarianism - and all possible forms subject to the issue.

Pollux: Finally, someone who attacks and tries to put some understanding at the same time. I was a casual spectator of how that war waged on between your parties, and I couldn't help feel offended and bitter (who would want the only category she could care about in ffnet be run over by violence per se?), thus that entry. I had opinions on both parties, and not just yours, but I wouldn't deny inclining towards chelating compounds (to accuse me of siding with her is going overboard, because I don't know the first thing about this to efficiently 'side with her').

caffeine addict (again): I'm not insecure. Why would I be insecure? I was minding my own miserable business before I was dragged into this mess. I didn't invite myself, I didn't want attention from any of you, and I was dragged in. Even my participation in the conversations would have to be forced as well, since you're all pinning me as some criminal, when my side hadn't had a chance to explain. I wouldn't have cared on how you deal with your problems with chelating compounds, if my name DID NOT SHOW UP on the April 21st entry, to which I only reacted some three or more days later. Again, it's futile to say I'm not damaged, because I am, but I'm not defeated.

Now, if you want me to clear some things you still might be confused about, tell it to me one by one, and I'll answer one by one. With the way a lot has been said, I can't grasp to everything all at once, and don't accuse me of being an idiot. It's an indispensable resolve.

I'm a bit apprehensive about mentioning this, but if and ONLY if your concept of maturity on the opposing side (which is me) is conceding to you and your actions, just forget about it. I can't do that, unless you prove yourselves immaculate.

11:58 PM

 
Blogger The Denizen of the Dark said...

KanonA: I learned through caffeine addict that you called me pathetic. I wouldn't have cared less if it's about my flame to julietearjerky or Yun Fei or 8 more oc writers I remembered flaming. Because I do admit that I DID flame their works. But upon learning that it's because of my reply to chelating compounds on ivyblueseummers' fic, I realized that perhaps you did not understand the whole thing. If you can prove that CC's flame to ivybluesummers is decent and constructive, I may be convinced to think that you're entitled to call me hence. This is what CC said:

“Rukawa, please focus on your books because tomorrow’d be the day that’ll decide whether you’d play basketball or not,”

There should be a period at the end of the sentence, not comma.

There is a confusion somewhere. First, Kogure called him Rukawa, then Kaede. Are they in that stage already? You do know that it is customary in Japanese to call someone by their family names, unless they are close friends.

Didn’t know Rukawa could feel guilt. I thought he has no emotions. And he said the word ‘sorry’? A lot of times, too. OOCness. Don't look at me. This is the prevalent belief amongst the writers here. Personally, I do not believe he is that unemotional.

For someone who claims to be good in English and known to lambast other authors, your story is peppered with grammatical and punctuation errors.

By the way, it should be Rukawa Kaede, not Kaede Rukawa. Family name first. This is a Japanese name we are talking about.


This is what I replied:

To the reviewer (chelating Compounds) before me: I'm starting to think there's something personal going on between you 2 though I understand there's the incident about shatteredteardrops' fic. Why the grudge? And why would you nitpick ivy's punctuation when you don't do that to authors who don't know subject-verb agreement, like carzybutterfly? I mean, what's exactly the point when you make a big deal about so little mistakes when you go protecting others saying that 'they are budding writers'? And you did mention that ivy's lambasting other authors...interesting; from what I have gathered you already did that to other authors. Tell me what's that something that makes you more entitled to flame and I swear I'm going to listen to you. I honestly think that you are becoming conspicuously inconsistent by flaming and then rescuing another writer who doesn't know basic grammar. You know what that makes us think? We think that you're always on the go for flame wars and that you wouldn't let any second split to attest your greatness and morality. Do you really pine that bad for attention? Honestly, it's not gonna work; somebody like Bet You Love That already accomplished that feat. And just to remind you; you did not understand ivy's review to shatteredteardrops because if you read closely it's not actually 'lambasting the author because of his educational origins'; why would ivy lambast (and trust me, this word has gone overboard) someone from UPLB when he's studying in UPLB? Self-deprecation? I don't think so. Bleah. And...I won't be surprised if you flame me too.

PS. 'By the way, it should be Rukawa Kaede, not Kaede Rukawa. Family name first. This is a Japanese name we are talking about.'--This advice is SO gonna help (many thanks because Inoue might just sue us for that). Really. Don't worry; next time we're gonna place your name in the disclaimer and make a point of apologizing to you just in case we commit errors, like OOCness. You make us feel like we don't have the right to make Rukawa say something as petty as 'sorry'. And I thought you think 'Rukawa has no emotions'? Why did you type 'Personally, I do not believe he is that unemotional'? Care to elaborate on the contradiction? You can e-mail me instead of replying to this page.



And I further expanded on that on my 6:21 AM comment. If you could repute everything I said to defend ivybluesummers, that would be great. Frankly, I don't care whoever sides with CC as long as that someone doesn't go to the extent of attacking me and calling me pathetic just because I countered somebody like CC. I'm not going to deny that my reply is harsh (DUH) because I'm not a nice reviewer but I'm not going to say either that CC's flame is sensible. It's people like CC who make me think that I'm intelligent, really. I have concluded that she doesn't feel too comfortable with other flamers. Gee, just when I said I wouldn't be surprised if she flamed me too, she dropped one on my OC fic. Bwahahaha!

And about this comment of yours: who would want the only category she could care about in ffnet be run over by violence (per se)? ---I wonder why you couldn't say that to chelating compounds when her review to ivy's fic doesn't seem so peaceful? I wonder why you haven't said that to BYLT before when she had, months ago, bombarded almost all review pages of SD category with flames that are no more than nonsensical attacks, including mine? I wonder why you would say this (Shit. That was one retarded retard, and I couldn't possibly be any kinder than that) to julietearjerky when you don't want violence? Why the inconsistency though?


What I want is explanation, a clear one. Just like when a teacher asks you to answer concisely each item. I don't care what's between you and burning bush because as I've said before I don't want to interfere with matters that don't concern me, ergo, I wouldn't attack you for anything else besides the fact that you called me pathetic. Just explain and answer my questions on the preceding paragraph.



Night Strider

2:39 AM

 
Blogger aria said...

Kanon A


So you’re offended by the flame wars which seem to be the new trend these days. That’s odd. I didn’t think twice about being nice to Chelating Compounds because I’m not that nice to be nice to someone like her. If you read my review for ivybluesummers I stated very clearly why she was being unreasonable and dumb; it’s because she was trying to sound intellectual and was nitpicking petty mistakes which proved to be non-existent later on. It may have been harsh but I don’t see it as something violent. Well, not as violent as Dorian Ghey and Caffeine Addict’s reply to her in Shattered T’s fic. Though you probably don’t know anything about that one, I’m quite sure you’ve seen the hurtful flames that Bet You Love That, Thesaurus Girl, Better than Shakespeare, Thamyras and Dorian Ghey gave Julietearjerky. I remember you said something to her about writing like a retarded retard. If you were so concerned about the peacefulness in SD category, you could’ve at least disagreed with these reviewers or just leave the story alone because Julietearjerky never said anything to anyone while her fics were bombarded with devastating flames. Instead, you also flamed her. I wonder.

And believe me, Julietearjerky is probably untalented but she is NOT as arrogant as Chelating Compounds and it is reasonable enough that we think Chelating deserves damaging flames more than Julie does.


It is also possible that your hidden concern was not yet born during that time, though I would find that hard to believe. I’m quite positive that you’ve seen worse and more agitated reviews than mine so I find it rather unjust (such a lame word) that we were the only ones whom you called pathetic when obviously there are those who flame stupidity with stupidity in a more stupid manner. Darn I’m being redundant.


If you are really offended by my harsh words to Chelating Compounds because of your desire to keep the SD category a peaceful place, I must say that that review would hardly add to the total amount of the violent remarks stored in the stories’ review pages. And that review is almost nothing compared to what Caffeine Addict, BYLT and Dorian Ghey gave abysmal writers. Not to mention Burning Bush’s killer attack to Chelating Compounds. I would also advice you not to mind those who keep the SD category on fire because it would be useless to do so. If the flames do not concern you, better leave them alone rather than say something about them that would possibly make matters worse for you. It’s just a piece of advice; I’m not trying to rob you of your right to speak. Or, if you can defend yourself correctly beyond reasonable doubts and handle those who would attack you in return, then I guess you have all the power to call others what you think of them, such as pathetic.


I am not going to accuse you of siding with Chelating Compounds, you didn’t have to remind me of that.

6:04 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KanonA: You indisputably did not read my answers appropriately. Don’t be such an over-defensive culprit because it only gives the impression that you really are. Everything happens for a reason, do not jump to conclusions just by what you read of me, BYLT or Dorian Ghey. If you did not take sides, then the entry should not have been there. You accused me of searching in your blog with a match lit – you still did not see that I’m a psychopath and I stalk people’s blogs, and I saw your entry even before anonymous is here. All the incidents that have been happening lead me to that conclusion. Even the Anon who insulted Strider and Ivy in their blogs emerges right after Strider’s Paper War was forwarded.

A psychopath knows the behavior of another.

You have some problems within you. Is fanfiction.net your sole life? Even when Ivy stated that he is a student of philosophy, you had to retort by saying he’s bragging, when clearly, he meant to tell you that his reviews are based on what he studies -- from the philosophical point of views. Your insecurity screams. I know it because I’m studying criminology. We are trained to profile individuals through facts and statements. You demanded respect and told me that flames need not be spawned with profanities, then you should respect the fact that not all of us have the same beliefs. I don’t believe in what you believe, vice versa -- comprehend?

caffeine-addict

7:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going to answer. And I don't want any of these issues to come back up again, save for the remains of confusion.

Night Strider: As I've said, I didn't do any namedropping. In that entry, I provided a link to the review page of some flamed fic, and stated said 'they're all pathetic'. Just because you and some others were the ones who flamed it doesn't mean I'm referring to you, point-blank. Didn't you think I was also upset with chelating compounds, because if not for her, it wouldn't have started? Come on, even I have to admit that correcting the comma for what have been the period is useless.

And about this comment of yours: who would want the only category she could care about in ffnet be run over by violence (per se)? ---I wonder why you couldn't say that to chelating compounds when her review to ivy's fic doesn't seem so peaceful? I wonder why you haven't said that to BYLT before when she had, months ago, bombarded almost all review pages of SD category with flames that are no more than nonsensical attacks, including mine?

Lately, I have been there to witness at least three flame wars - big ones, this being the "third", or the most recent. Whatever. Naturally, I wouldn't have cared; I confess of this tendency to stalk and revel in what words the parties exchange with each other. I even made an entry in lj about the second war, about crazybutterfly and her doppelganger; some dude made a really harsh flame in Tagalog, and the stream of anger and profanities was hilarious, even more so because it was in Tagalog.

In this flame war, I didn't even bother. I just made an entry about it in lj, with the bottom line being, 'although there was fun, it was starting to get stupid'. Why am I here? Ask yourselves. You keep accusing me of things I didn't really say (I really can't get over the fact that I supposedly told BYLT something like improving writing skills rather than lambasting people of different opinions - I would never do that, because I'm used to minding my own business, and what happens? This.), and of course, as a person of no record of such deed, I defend myself. I hope at least you can understand that. I'm not here to defend chelating compounds, nor join in what fun you see in flaming. And being here earned me insults like 'insecure' and 'envious'. WHY WOULD I BE ANY OF THOSE?

I wonder why you would say this (Shit. That was one retarded retard, and I couldn't possibly be any kinder than that) to julietearjerky when you don't want violence? Why the inconsistency though?

Come on, I thought you knew better. If violence was what I wanted in the first flace with julie, I wouldn't have attached the line that succeeded that comment (Keep up; you can do it. :) <- look, a good-willed smiley. How can that go wrong?) That comment was how I thought of the person in her fic; I think she (julie) was trying to be poetic by exploiting pigeons, if you know what I mean. By saying that her character was 'a retarded retard', I hoped she'd get the hint that something was terirbly wrong with her character to stomach, and that she'd do something about it. By saying 'and I couldn't possibly be any kinder than that', she'd know that there's no other way (for me) to put into words what I thought of her character (because really, I wanted to sound kinder, even if it isn't obvious to any of you hardbounds), and it really needs some curative attention.

I hope you're not trying to prove me off as a flamer with that comment, because it's too weak to be of any argument. And I hope I answered your questions.

Really, peace. :)

be that as it may...: Again, about my retarded comment on julie's fic. The 'retarded retard' comment wasn't for her writing, or anything that attacks julie as a writer altogether. The 'retarded retard' I was referring to was the character in on of her fics, wherein the character was feeding pigeons. Night Strider also wanted clearance on that; please do refer to my replies to her. PLEASE.

I’m quite positive that you’ve seen worse and more agitated reviews than mine so I find it rather unjust (such a lame word) that we were the only ones whom you called pathetic when obviously there are those who flame stupidity with stupidity in a more stupid manner.

Like what I've said, I could care less about the past flame wars, or if they provided me with undulating joy for a day, I'd mention a thing or two about it on my journal. But this flame war kind of took its toll on me and was the turning point - meaning, I no longer see the wars as something to be silent about. It was getting ridiculous, shamelessly flooding review pages like that. As a result, I felt annoyance. As a result, I wrote it down in my journal. I didn't really infringe any personal right, didn't I? It was my own journal after all. And again, I didn't mention names; You and you and all of you may be included, but that's not the exclusive circle. Some others, like the stupid flamers who flame stupidity with stupidity that you mentioned, and some others in the past, and even chelating compounds herself were included. Is it still unjust? I don't have the courage to give out particular names. I have tact, and the decency to protect myself from anger that resulted from libel.

I would also advice you not to mind those who keep the SD category on fire because it would be useless to do so. If the flames do not concern you, better leave them alone rather than say something about them that would possibly make matters worse for you.

Actually, I'm not here because of flame wars. I just wanted to know why I'm suddenly on the hot seat, with you guys thinking I said things that would sharply contradict my nature of keeping to myself. I mean, what did you do to me, BYLT, before this, to make me tell you that you should spend more time trying to improve your writing skills rather than lambasting people of different opinions? Nothing. Or what is it to me to pretend I'm Anon, when I have a name? Nothing. I'm here to clear my identity of that. You guys attacked first. I said no such thing, nor did I decide on another ego. But a lot has been said, and people here, trying to prove me wrong, go to the extent of burrowing through my personal installations, such as my journal (reeking with Slam Dunk, btw) and traces of my reviews. As a result, I have to defend myself from those as well. I hope you at least understand that, to which I'd be very grateful if you do.

I'm not siding with chelating compounds. Should you refuse to believe so, fine. I don't care about that issue, it has nothing to do with me. I just hope that last sentence of yours wasn't sarcastic in any way.

caffeine-addict: How can I be not 'over-defensive' if I'm fighting a one-man ground here, and accusations are flying from all directions? I'm sorry for being overly defensive, then. I couldn't help it. Even scum have pride.

I'm not taking sides. Just like the way I didn't drop names, I didn't and will not take sides. I never mentioned that I never thought that chelating compounds was never at fault, did I? I mailed her (if and ONLY if my email to her is your constant source of aggravation, I'm clearing this now) because I wanted to know a little about the issue, before I conclude things. She told me her side, and I understood, but I told her to 'not stoop down to them', as an indication that it'd be better for her and for everyone else if she takes the initiative to shut up. I used 'stoop down' because I didn't want to portray myself as your underdog - no offense, you're not my gods. I would've told you guys the same thing, but you're already an army yourselves and I'm positive that you can take care of yourselves better than what that could've put into power.

The fact that entry had been so long ago preconceived the idea that I could be Anon? I don't know what to say to that. Just because I said something potently dangerous labels me as the one who anonymously challenges you? What about KanonA? I reviewed in Night Strider's 'Paper War' (because it was relentlessly hilarious), but the point is?

Bottom line: I'm not Anon, nor anyone else but KanonA, and if you don't want to believe it, I can't do anything about it, fine. That's it.

Oh, I'm not a psychopath. I don't stalk people's blogs, except for those who might interest me for the moment, and those whom I personally know.

Yes, ffnet is my sole life (actually, there's a bit of realistic exaggeration here, but that's besides the point), if that's not yet an understatement. I'm barely out of high school, and even then I keep on accelerating to the next level after a year, despite my delinquency and the adamant margin of remote distance with anything intellectual, so no need to insult my intellect. I'm nothing special. I haven't read anything but fanfiction. I stick fast to things that can immediately make me happy. I could spend a lot on anime DVDs, time and money-wise, but not enough on sleep and studies. That's how I live my life, in par to how you guys live yours. If you see that as problematic and abnormal, then go ahead - not like it's really healthy to begin with. I respect what others think so much (maybe except when they're being persistent about what was falsely disseminated), especially yours, that I now forgot what was the point of having these arguments in the first place, if only we MUTUALLY respected each other. Comprehend?

Lastly, this: Even when Ivy stated that he is a student of philosophy, you had to retort by saying he’s bragging, when clearly, he meant to tell you that his reviews are based on what he studies -- from the philosophical point of views. Your insecurity screams.

My alleged insecurity is not found, but it is my confusion that screams. WHEN AND HOW DID I EVER HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM? If you're talking about that journal entry again, I told you, I didn't attack anyone in particular. If this is about what Anon did, then I have no clue, and it's not my concern anymore. I never told ivybluesummers that he's bragging. Even in my state of alleged stupidity, I would never retort senselessly, when there's sense being shoved in my face. I hope you understand that.

9:39 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

p.s. first Flace. lol. I'm sorry for that, Night Strider.

10:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phew. So you’re telling me that all of these are happenstances. That the way Anon and KanonA poses (especially in term of phraseology) is a coincidence. Well, it’s a bit too captivating for me to believe, but at the end of the day, I can pass it off that way.

You are jumping to conclusions again. I never said that I led a normal life that made me who I am today. Do you have to fathom how abnormal you are to justify all of these? Do you have to unerringly state how you are living your life so it permits you to pass by with your writing skills? I regard you, that’s why I’m showing the real me in here, that’s why I did not call you an idiot or ignoramus, that is the kind of respect I am offering you. Your problem is, you analyze stuff only on the surface, and you do not see other possibilities or the ‘otherwise’ circumstance of a quandary. You don’t want me to come out with another meaning from the words scum or low life again, do you? I suggest you find that out because claiming yourself as a scum and all the same opposing my beliefs, is a paradox. I am a scum reaching its apotheosis, my behavior and vernacular proves it, so don’t hail yourself as a scum and at the same time demands mutual reverence. But I did not instill atrocity in my answer to you, did I? Get the whole idea? If I did not respect you, I would have been a stupid punk who swears and curses you, but I did not. Respect varies in meanings and degrees, see the WHOLE PICTURE, please.

And one other thing. You said the stuff you said to Julie-Tearjerky, and you do not consider it as flame. Look, it does not subject what you think or how carefully you have arranged the sentences or chose your words so it did not sound as flame, but; have you considered Julie-tearjerky’s feelings, her comprehension of what you have said? Do you think she regarded it as review or flame? So at that time you saw them playing with fire and decided that you’d join the ride and now you’re detaching all responsibilities? Even with this masochistic tendency within me, I’d regard it as a flame, and I think she would too.

So don’t give me horse craps on that. Even with her level of comprehension and English proficiency, she would take it as a flame.

And I never denied my flames as flames. It is you who denies.

caffeine-addict

11:25 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yeah. The kind of you is the one who'd throw shit but then you tell her that she can bathe it off. That is utterly sadistic and mean(take those to their superlatives).

You're the same as Chelating Compounds. No wonder BYLT thought she was you.

caffeine-freak

2:49 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still can't get over that thing with Anon. Would you mind bringing to picture about this too-coincidental identity of hers? Tell me her email address, tell me what she told you, tell me everything.

And I never assumed that you led a normal life. All I assumed was you took me as problematic, spawned from that 'you have some problems within you' comment of yours (pretty rational, don't you think?). I try my best to not jump to conclusions, and I think I didn't. As for the word 'abnormal' that went with 'problematic', I didn't mean its existence to aggravate our understanding of each other. I acclaim myself as a 'scum', not for your satisfaction, but it's what I really am, and as to not grant others an allowance to call me a fetus being futilely breastfed by Jimmy Neutron and his dad again. I'm just saying that if and ONLY if ever ffnet had been my sole life, it has nothing to do with you, because I live my own life and you live yours; I'm a scum and you're one too, okay, but that doesn't mean we could and should share the same beliefs. (At this point, I don't think I let my point across well and that I fully understood what you're telling me about. Sorry.)

I know you gave me respect, from the way all other varieties of idiotic namecalling had been absent, and I am grateful. I respect those who can respect me, even if circumstances prove me immeasurably dumb. I don't understand why you are telling me the whole thing about mutualism and respect, but in any case, I'm relieved.

About the thing with julie, it has been said and done, and I told you what it really was. Do you really have to be that dubious, deviating the truth into some far-fetched detour? I'm me and I can speak in the way I want. I did consider her feelings, that's why I wanted to be kinder but irrevocably could not; it's not my responsibility anymore to kill myself overnight, just thinking of what kinder words to give to her. If she misunderstood, then it's not my concern anymore - her only responsibility is to not commit emotional suicide upon my review, because the others had been a lot crueler, and you know it. She could always contact me for clearance - that's why I leave my personal info open.

And yes, with her level of comprehension and English, I'd not be surprised if she's in a state of mental irreparability right now, seeing how she's been too damaged with flames. Mine hardly contributes.

It's impossible for you to deny your flaming - because they're really flames, intended to spark a little too violently more than the others' do. And I deny that I give flames. If you call that a flame, then I don't know what to call yours.

2:52 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm like chelating compounds? The one who brags about grammar, or the one who's being stubbornly inconsistent? You think I'm inconsistent but I don't; I don't let myself appear inconsistent. Just give me the chance to explain my 'inconsistencies' and if you buy it well enough, then I can disprove myself as inconsistent.

Sadly, there's hardly anyone who's willing to let me be consistent. That's fine.

3:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So now it falls upon me, the blame. It is us who leads you to this, am I correct? It is us who put those clouds around you. See what insecurity I'm talking about? See how narcissistic you are? It's always somebody else. It is never you. It will never ever be you.

And for Lucifer's sake, that is a flame. Don't horse around saying that it isn't, just because you don't think it is. I told you it does not matter what you think, or what you intended it to be. julietearjerky will think of it as flame, that is all that matters. Don't just think of yourself, think of others too, because it your claims, in the first place, led us to believe that you oppose flames.

Remember that you said ffnet does not need someone like me. That means you oppose flames and even hostility, so who is questioning my beliefs now? You know what you are doing? You're twisting and turning my arguments and use them to defend yourself. Why don't you just admit that you've lost it. Why do you want to win a war in which you have lost? Just don't be a sore loser, when you can't find any other measures to defend yourself, you use my details. That's pathetic. I don't care if FFNET is your sole life, but conclusion on your insecurity and confusion can be made based on that fact. Don't ever think that that I care of what happen to you, it just intrigues me 'coz, even in these studies of statements, based on what I have learnt -- your inconsistencies is something that I have to take into account. In criminal analysis, disagreement in arguments will lead yourself to be diagnosed as a culprit (and don't give me shit that I think of you as a criminal,I'm analyzing based on the way I have studied). I don't feel satisfied with you calling yourself a scum -- it only shows how inconsistent you are.

I've never denied mine as flames. You can even call them infernos if you want, you can always call it flames from seventh hell if you want, I don't give a fuck. I ADMIT that they are flames. The problem is with you, you don't realize what effects your flames harbor to julie-tearjerky. So now what you did is not supposed to be a flame and it is up to the writers if they want to feel it that way? What kind of stupid, egocentric comment is that? If you don't want any harm to julie, you should not have flamed her in the first place. True, your message is not as hostile as mine, but the effect is still the same, it is still a flame goddammit!

I said you are the same with Chelating Compounds because you two have the same style of flaming, first, you tear the writer apart, and then, you grace them with words like 'you can improve'.

You are hopeless.

I give up on you.

caffeine-addict

4:30 AM

 
Blogger aria said...

Kanon A

So the retarded comment is about the prologue. I referred to your answer to Strider, and said that you didn’t intend that as a flame because you gave Julie some uplifting words in the end. I have to say that, and I think someone has made this clear before, when you attack the writing, some character in a story and a scene or event, partly, you also attack the author. Because as you see, Julie wouldn’t have received such words from you and me if she wrote just fine, of course by giving her such reviews, it surely made her feel that we think of her as someone who aspires to be poetic but is not equipped with talent. I think it’s impossible that someone would flame an abysmal fic, one that is peppered with grammatical errors and has no plot, without thinking that the author is NOT a good writer or untalented. So even as you left some inspiring comment in the end, I, well I think most people, would conceive that review as a flame because if you read closely, there is still this; Shit. That was one retarded retard, and I couldn't possibly be any kinder than that. I doubt if Julie was not also hurt by that. What I’m trying to say is that your closing remark, I deem, would not render your review simply as a review. I would have reconsidered if it was a constructive criticism but clearly you just said what you thought about the prologue. I know that that fic falls under the worst kind and I do not regret flaming her that’s why I won’t deny that my review for her is a flame. By saying what you said to her, don’t get me wrong, I’m quite sure that you’ve hurt her feelings too because you described a part of her fic as ‘one retarded retard’ and you couldn’t have said anything better than that, so you must be saying that it was REALLY that bad because the word ‘retard’ alone did not comply with its crappiness. I don’t believe that someone would say that to something WITHOUT realizing that she might offend the writer. Call me close-minded but I am being reasonable here. Insults are powerful words, whether you were referring to her fic or just a part of it, it leaves a more lasting sensation than good ones, and that’s that. Honestly, and that’s after reading how you explained yourself, I don’t see the point of denying that that review was indeed a flame. Well, everyone has his own views about things


About flame wars, I DIDN’T flame Chelating Compounds to start or join a flame war, I flamed her to show her where she went wrong. If you were so tired of the flame wars because you found the comments there ridiculous, I have to tell you that what I answered to Chelating Compounds is nowhere near ridiculous and is not something to be annoyed with unless you are Chelating Compounds, in fact, I made sense on that one. Yes, you didn’t mention names, but you linked that SPECIFIC page (ivybluesummers review page) in your blog and called the people there who were arguing or something like that, pathetic, and I’m quite convinced that I am one of those people. Is it just because of that? You were tired of flame wars? You find my comment ridiculous? Why link that specific page when, I don’t know, I’m sure you’ve encountered some review pages with more ridiculous flame wars and unreasonable ones, you said it yourself, you’ve encountered some in the past. You couldn’t have been also referring to the others from the other flame wars because they didn’t have anything to do with that page; it’s just me, Strider and Chelating Compounds who were involved. And that discord may have been the most recent one; that’s probably why you chose to link that, still, I don’t see why you would risk to offend us (pathetic is a weak word but it becomes offensive when you use that to someone whom you don’t entirely know, much less label her as such) or how you could have been so careless when the argument did NOT concern you at all. And I have made it clear that ‘because I’m tired of flame wars’ does not clear the whole thing because again, I wasn’t intending to start a flame war nor join any. There wasn’t even a flame war in that page because obviously, CC did not reply. Of course when I first heard of that ‘pathetic’ thing I started off thinking that there was something personal going on because I did not intend to offend anyone except CC.

Seriously, I understand everything you wrote here but I’m finding it extremely hard to buy. So I’m sorry about that. I am however entitled to my opinions.



Forgive me for being harsh; I swear to God, I am not trying to offend you.


--------Pollux

5:31 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeez's ass, Pollux. I could not have said them any better than you.

She'll come back with more pathetic arguments after this, I'm pretty sure.

caffeine-addict

5:53 AM

 
Blogger betyoulovethat said...

Well, Kanon (forget about what i said on that email), you see; 'That' was one retarded retard'. That's what you said; if you referred to the OC, you could've said instead 'She was one retarded retard.' Mmm?

I'm the one who told Night Strider and Pollux that you called them pathetic because I want intelligent people on my side, happy now? You erased the entry even before they had the chance to read it and now there's just no way to prove that you DID favor chelating compounds over them. I still remember the last sentence of that entry; it says: 'And Chelating Compounds, how true^_^' still.' Come on honey, that sounds very far from including CC in your pathetic persons' list.

Now what is the possibility that you remain neutral? And that's not the first time you said that.

Stop shooting the bull; we all know you didn't like Strider and Pollux's replies to chelating compounds probably because they're being reasonable and you can't grasp simple rationale. You even said that (you said something to this effect and I KNOW these are NOT the exact words); nobody can flame anyone anymore because friends of the flamed would humiliate you. And then you mentioned something about people who act as though they own the place. Now, who could you be referring to? Erm...don't be silly; but I fail to see how you could NOT be referring to the 2 writers (surprise, surprise, Night Strider and Pollux) because, wow, they are the ones who retorted mischievously to chelating compounds because their friend (it's actually ivybluesummers) was flamed by the moronic Compounds. Please stop denying that you're not indicating them because that statement doesn't even apply to caffeine addict and Dorian Ghey who invaded coffee maverick's review page. Get the point? I must remind you again that you linked ivyblue's review page where Pollux and Strider commented to specify it. To add, I would at least be entitled to suppose that you term Strider and Pollux's replies as violence because, uh well, you addressed Pollux. If that's hostile/violent; then look at that retarded retard cum shit you gave julietearjerkoff. Theirs would predictably pale in comparison.

And that, my dear, lands you in an argumentative cul de sac. I bet caffeine addict is laughing his balls off because of your weak logic, and burning bush is burning his bush already.


And...Quit making a pair of cretins out of Strider and Pollux; just because they don't know anything about what you wrote on your entry doesn't mean you can make them ride your silly merry-go-round. Will you just, for once, show your true self? Your hypocrisy led me to comment on my own blog.


If you still deny it, then I may as well tag you an absitive and posolute liar. And Mr. Webster hasn't even heard of those words. Crap. But hey, that's you.

PS. I didn't get it. Night Strider put an open-close parenthesis on your 'per se', only a little earlier did i realize that the word shouldn't have been there. Eh? Check out what it means first


And oh, I almost forgot, are you a liar? I know you're going to say 'no' because you're a liar!




Lalalalala...

I've been to the desert on a horse with no name,
It felt good to be out on the rain,
In the desert you can't remember your name cos there ain't no one to give you no pain.

Lalalalalala...


I'm horsing around on a merry-go-round,
It felt so good so true to shoot the bull...shit
You're so consistent, so consistently inconsistent Lalalalala...


---To whom is this song dedicated to? Submit your guesses now!

8:34 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kanon A


Oh, I’M the one who can’t get enough of myself? Oh, brother, look how deluded you are in thinking that the people here are interested in everything about you. You think they all care about our argument? Have you read anything here that echoes anything I said? Has someone accused you of siding with CC in any other remark she said? Or maybe you keep dreaming about all of us here turning you down that you can no longer tell truth from delusion. Wow, that’s so critical, only in your mind though, because sadly, everyone here is minding his own business. As if your name is not bad enough to start with.


About the well-written enough I’ve explained my part thrice too but you refused to understand as well. The problem with you is that you refuse to see your error, I told you why I’m fussing over that ‘enough’ word but since you’re still insisting otherwise, I asked you to look up its meaning in the dictionary but you evidently did not. I take back what I said about you being an embryo; you’re probably just a zygote.


You said you were talking about characterization, so in there, you said that you’ve always thought that Rukawa was the kind of guy who’d hyperventilate in secret blah blah blah you got them well enough.---you a retard? What would someone think when he reads this? You were saying that Strider presented Rukawa just well enough and I have explained my part about the ‘enough’ word, it shows that it was just satisfactory for you. And it suggests that since it was just well enough for you then I concluded that you could have done better but then I checked out your fic and that’s it, you were not even good-I have the feeling that this last phrase triggered your anger. Oh, I’m expecting that you’re not gonna get this after explaining it for the fourth time. Surely the word ‘enough’ does not suggest being impressed. And I kinda expected at first that you were better than Strider with the way you spoke. What I first said explains that I think you were giving air that you could’ve done better. And now you’re saying that you’re certainly judging by Inoue’s standards because it’s your life, I just said that I find this rather absurd because as it has been proven, you, yourself, are not even good enough to judge by his standards and well you still go on doing that. Don’t you think it’s out of character of you to judge by his standards? You even criticized Yun Fei and Julie Tearjerky when your talents don’t even go beyond theirs, my point is, who are you to judge this way when you are simply just a budding writer? Why don’t you just admit that you’re not good enough to judge that way yet still perseveres to do so because you wanted to sound cool?



And oh! You’re washing your hands! You did not mention names yet you said that that thing with the ivybluesummers is stupid enough and you called the people who bit back pathetic, let’s see, who countered Chelating Compounds IN THAT PARTICULAR PAGE? Night Strider, Pollux, and ivybluesummers (in his and this blog). Who could you have been referring to? It’s hard to answer because the people I mentioned above were the only ones who replied in that remark. Or have you forgotten that you linked that page? WOW I’LL SLIT MY THROAT IF YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE NOT REFERRING TO THEM. REALLY, I THINK I HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU WILL SURELY WASH YOUR HANDS ABOUT IT SAYING THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE. Please, it’s bad enough that you’re a hypocrite but being a liar is way beyond my understanding. You even said that you could have also been referring to Chelating Compounds. BBBBBWAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! HOW BELIEVABLE. You even said there, and this is the exact same words; To Chelating Compounds, how true. BWAHAHAHAHAH! Yeah, right, after saying this, apparently agreeing with her, you now claim that it is also possible that you were also calling Chelating Compounds pathetic. If you don’t call this contradictory then I guess you’re not a zygote, you’re probably just a sperm cell. Don’t fucking ditch me about this, I have read your miserable blog stuffed with miserable stuff and even recommended it to someone else. LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR MOST PATHETIC HYPOCRITICAL LIAR I’VE EVER SEEN THAT’S WHY IT’S SO MUCH FUN TO MAKE FUN OF YOU, LIAR.

You know what? I can’t believe how hypocritical you are, I know, CC only comes second to you on that Hypocritical Liar Queen pageant. You’re hopeless. No one can cut your make-believe fantasies.


You know what again? Your stupidity is such that it’s enough reason for your friends (if you have any) to neglect you. You’re really pathetic, you deny what’s obvious, giving reasons that only desperate pea brains like you would dare to touch on. You’re ridiculous. You’re calling me a hypocrite when I am being so honest here while you, you lecture me about courtesy when you didn’t even bother using it in the first place and you had enough audacity to accuse me of being hostile in the beginning.

Really, you’re worse than Chelating Compounds claiming that your review for Julietearjerky is NOT a flame and washing your hands saying that it would hardly amount to something after what the others have said, still, it’s contrary to what you said about wanting peace (funny!). I know what you’re up to, you admit that you’re a loser and a hypocrite yet when one confirms it you defend yourself with ridiculous crap. Isn’t that a proof of being hypocritical? Tell me, why do you admit that you’re a hypocrite? I bet you can’t answer that because you DON’T really think that you’re a hypocrite. Yeah. Like, everyone would believe you right now after that. You’re SUPER.


Since you’re obviously too lazy to check out the meaning of hypocrite, I’ll define it for you I’m also giving an example: insincerity or pretense of goodness,

Example :Who would want the only category she could care about be run over with violence?

-----------burning bush---------

7:08 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

caffeine addict: What the hell do you want me to do, not defend myself? It's as if everything I say is labeled as being insecure, hypocritical and all other shit, when all I'm doing, all I'm saying, is simply defending myself. Of course it will never be me, because I haven't done anything to any of you in the first place.

What I said is a flame? Okay, fine, I give up on you, you win. Because the godless god said it's a flame, it's a flame, and there's nothing this sperm cell could do about it. Get the picture? I try to let you know what it is, but no, you accuse me of washing hands. I don't really fucking care if that julie thinks it's a flame; it was never a flame and will never be (you fail to see my point -- THIS IS ALL WHAT MATTERS), and using 'she' instead of 'that' would only make matters worse, because that'd seem like I'm talking about her sarcastically from afar. Pinning that deed on me is kind of pathetic; it only suggests of your ardent pursuit of fault in me, when that "flame" itself is too weak to be of any argument. I don't really oppose flames, I don't even care, and don't you think 'oppose' is too much of a responsibility? I did squander time before indulging in what insults were exchanged before, even to the sin of 'enjoying'. Why did I not 'oppose' those times of violence before? I didn't really care. And my presence here does not even originally incline to heroic aspirations, such as trying saving the world from flaming destruction.

Remember that you said ffnet does not need someone like me.

I didn't say that to speak for myself. That doesn't even suggest my opposition to flames and hostility. It's a preestablished fact - don't tell me it wasn't obvious to you. If I hated flames so much, don't you think I would've made a move already, like contacting Fido and having every trace of such hostility be erased? They're there, YOU guys are there, I can feel bad about it if I want to, but at the end of the day, I don't really care. Understand? This explanation itself disproves of my supposed questioning of your beliefs.

Btw, I think you misunderstood my use of 'criminal' somewhere in the past. I referred myself as a 'criminal', literally, because I supposedly did something to BYLT that I personally have no knowledge of. I wasn't being dumb, and I apologize if you thought I was.

I told you, even scum have pride, and this scum you're talking to will defend it until she meets complete defeat. You see me as inconsistent just because I already made it a fact that I'm a scum, hypocrite, and whatever miserable shit there was, but I'm still defending myself, is that it? If that's it, then I'm guilty of being inconsistent, because the dictionary doesn't seem to suggest that scum also have pride, and you refuse to see its new meaning through me.

The problem is with you, you don't realize what effects your flames harbor to julie-tearjerky.

Am I entitled to care about what the author is, personally, by reviewing? I don't suppose ffnet has that in its terms of service? Aren't you being a little, if not thoroughly, hypocritical yourself? You flame, and now are lecturing me about caring about other people's feelings? I know this has nothing to do with your flaming, and very much with mine, but I don't see much difference. If you call mine a flame because of the potential undertones of hostility it carried, then suit yourself. I have no hands to wash in the first place, because I'm not the type to give out flames, and by now I deem that the logic you're begging from me won't save me, because no matter what I say, it's always about you, and never about me.

So now what you did is not supposed to be a flame and it is up to the writers if they want to feel it that way? What kind of stupid, egocentric comment is that? If you don't want any harm to julie, you should not have flamed her in the first place.

Yes, that's egocentric, but I don't care. Though I'm beginning to see where I've gone wrong. I shouldn't have just let her know that her character, possibly herself, acted like a retarded retard, when she was just feeding fucked up pigeons, and that itself should be redeemed immediately. I should have just trusted her to improve through the more destructive ones. Did you think the others' flames would have helped her immensely instead? Didn't you think that she'd be too damaged to see through the constructive criticisms, clouded with harsher words? Following your logic of how she sees mine as a flame, it'd be more likely for her to read all the flames she got then decide to commit suicide the next moment, rather than smiling it all away like a fucked up innocent kid and sit back down again, stare on the hyperventilatingly offensive screen, trying to listen to much wiser elders, trying to let the lessons on grammar sink -- without having her feelings smashed for the second time. Do you trust her to that extent? Meaner people didn't even think she had a flea of hope in her hair.

Pollux: I have to say that, and I think someone has made this clear before, when you attack the writing, some character in a story and a scene or event, partly, you also attack the author.

Please refer to the my last paragraph for caffeine addict. Thank you.

What I’m trying to say is that your closing remark, I deem, would not render your review simply as a review. I would have reconsidered if it was a constructive criticism but clearly you just said what you thought about the prologue.

I am at fault for not reviewing through, I know. But how about not finding the kind words to tell it? I didn't want to flame (if you call daring to be constructive a flame), so reviewing the second installment was out of the question. Letting her know that her prologue was retarded seemed to be of necessity for me, since she didn't seem to know, and thus dared to come out with another chapter. If she knew she had been retarded (I can't possibly understand how she can be bitter about something as weak as 'retarded', when she can see it as a chance to improve herself), maybe, JUST MAYBE, she'd scratch it next time. But there has never been the next time, huh? This is what I was telling caffeine addict - maybe she's dead already. If that's the case, then I don't know what purpose the flames served, save for the mere fun of picking on talentless people like her and me. In caffeine addict's words, that's just the superlative of sadistic and mean.

To summarize everything, hurting the author was not of any concern for me, yet I don't have the time to spare for senseless violence either. I may have hurt her, yes, somehow qualifying my review as a 'flame', but I'd never do it out of fun. I wanted her to know how retarded her prologue went, thus giving her a clue that the readers might not like what would be written next, considering that the appetizer wasn't so appetizing. I mean, since I'm just a zygote and all, I never even had the chance to think if I really did want to hurt her, so intentional foulplay wasn't a part of the shit. I pray all of you understand this.

Insults are powerful words, whether you were referring to her fic or just a part of it, it leaves a more lasting sensation than good ones, and that’s that. Honestly, and that’s after reading how you explained yourself, I don’t see the point of denying that that review was indeed a flame. Well, everyone has his own views about things.

I never insulted julie. I'm sure you found the prologue retarded as well, no? If a not so positive opinion grows and circulates to a number of people, is it still an insult? I stated a fact, and dumb as I may be, I know there are people who support it. There are even people who called her work degrees and degrees of worse things than 'retard', and are all those insults as well? I think not. Everyone has his own views about things, true, and if you don't want to understand my point, then that's fine. I respect that, although things could have been better.

Yes, you didn’t mention names, but you linked that SPECIFIC page (ivybluesummers review page) in your blog and called the people there who were arguing or something like that, pathetic, and I’m quite convinced that I am one of those people.

Yes, I didn't mention names, but I wasn't washing my hands with the fact that you were one of the people I've shamelessly called pathetic. It's obvious enough, no? This is what I told you some time back, and you probably don't remember:

I could care less about the past flame wars, or if they provided me with undulating joy for a day, I'd mention a thing or two about it on my journal. But this flame war kind of took its toll on me and was the turning point - meaning, I no longer see the wars as something to be silent about. It was getting ridiculous, shamelessly flooding review pages like that. As a result, I felt annoyance. As a result, I wrote it down in my journal. I didn't really infringe any personal right, did I? It was my own journal after all. And again, I didn't mention names; You and you and all of you may be included, but that's not the exclusive circle. Some others, like the stupid flamers who flame stupidity with stupidity that you mentioned, and some others in the past, and even chelating compounds herself were included. Is it still unjust?

It's obvious that you and you and you and chelating compounds were one of the said people, but this wasn't the only flame war that got on my nerves. After having been there to watch some others spark and die in the past, I naturally could summarize the frustration of a flame war with that entry. That link on that review page was just an example. After all, I did say that was the turning point. Of course past notions on flame wars would rekindle.

Still, if you're that offended, I apologize for calling you as such. Same goes for everyone and anyone whom I intended to be under that impression. I should have just left it alone. I'm sorry.

BYLT: You erased the entry even before they had the chance to read it and now there's just no way to prove that you DID favor chelating compounds over them. I still remember the last sentence of that entry; it says: 'And Chelating Compounds, how true^_^' still.' Come on honey, that sounds very far from including CC in your pathetic persons' list.

I did admit that I was inclining towards chelating compounds in the past, if you still don't know of it. I admit favoring her more than any of you, but that was if I had enough information. Why? Blame it on the grudge on your domineering, sadistic, masochistic and hedonistic propensities - you can ignite a harsh conversation when you fucking want to and you know it, and I'm far from grasping the said rationale of such attitude, so we shall leave our differences be. I'm very far from siding with chelating compounds, because I don't know much about this thing between you and her, but I don't see the point of siding with you and I've stated why, so that leaves me with chelating compounds, if ever. But that doesn't mean I can't call her pathetic for starting this mess.

You even said that (you said something to this effect and I KNOW these are NOT the exact words); nobody can flame anyone anymore because friends of the flamed would humiliate you. And then you mentioned something about people who act as though they own the place. Now, who could you be referring to?

You know the people concerned. Isn't this even true? You are domineering, sadistic, masochistic and hedonistic, after all.

Erm...don't be silly; but I fail to see how you could NOT be referring to the 2 writers (surprise, surprise, Night Strider and Pollux) because, wow, they are the ones who retorted mischievously to chelating compounds because their friend (it's actually ivybluesummers) was flamed by the moronic Compounds.

I'm not denying that I was talking about them, but I wasn't adamant on them alone. Check out my explanation for Pollux. Thank you.

Quit making a pair of cretins out of Strider and Pollux; just because they don't know anything about what you wrote on your entry doesn't mean you can make them ride your silly merry-go-round. Will you just, for once, show your true self? Your hypocrisy led me to comment on my own blog.

There weren't any white lies to fuss with in the first place. There wasn't anything to deny, because indeed, I was addressing them. I just said that not dropping names only added people in the list, because there were some in the past. So why the confusion on this?

Again, I've been called inconsistent and I don't know why. And here comes burning bush.

burning bush: Oh, brother, look how deluded you are in thinking that the people here are interested in everything about you.

I think these people are interested in everything about ME? Now where did that come from?

Has someone accused you of siding with CC in any other remark she said?

Yes, obviously. In fact, some even think I'm chelating compounds herself. And you say I snag attention.

Wow, that’s so critical, only in your mind though, because sadly, everyone here is minding his own business. As if your name is not bad enough to start with.

I can see how everyone's minding his and her own business. No one wants to understand me. That's fine.

You know, the problem with you is that you think I don't understand your point when I resurface with another argument; I understand you perfectly. You can't get over the fact that I put airs to sound better and I seemingly suggest that I could have done better, right? You keep on insisting 'enough' meant the whole world for you, when I didn't mean anything wrong with that. You refuse to see that I didn't mean anything vainglorious about that word just because it doesn't rhyme with the dictionary. And I'm sure you know I can't do better than any of you here, so why pursue the argument?

And now you’re saying that you’re certainly judging by Inoue’s standards because it’s your life,

You rephrased that by yourself and behold how vile it sounded. I can't judge by Inoue's standard, if it wasn't obvious to you yet. No one can. What I'm saying is that no fanfic writer can capture the characters perfectly, because Slam Dunk is official to Inoue - that's where you can find perfect. I liked how Night Strider did her characterizations, your point?

my point is, who are you to judge this way when you are simply just a budding writer?

So I can't tell someone 'great' (I have the feeling that the quote-unquote triggered your anger) that I like the way she captured the characters? I can't judge if a character is done well enough? If that's the case, you're one blind mouse. I told you once, I'm so acquainted with the Slam Dunk series (telling you that I have the whole series on dvd would be pathetic, but I'm going to risk it since you seem to be intent on questioning me) to not notice something sticking out from a character's original profile. If you don't think I don't even have the right to think like that, then I give up on you.

Why don’t you just admit that you’re not good enough to judge that way yet still perseveres to do so because you wanted to sound cool?

Where are you pulling these things out? Why on earth would I want to sound cool?

I said I 'want' peace? When have I associated such words together? I admit, I don't want people as yourself running aroung naked with a lit torch, but I don't care enough to 'want' peace, moreover to 'want' it so bad like what you're suggesting.

I know what you’re up to, you admit that you’re a loser and a hypocrite yet when one confirms it you defend yourself with ridiculous crap.

I only defend myself when what s/he confirms is nothing but a false claim. I admit I'm a loser and I'm a hypocrite but really, I haven't been much of the latter intentionally. You seem to experience a great deal of happiness while hammering me with such things -- why don't you try to understand me first and tell me faultlessly that I've gone wrong, in such a way that it'd take me a week to formulate a counter-argument, and I'll concede. However, as long as you don't acknowledge what I claim, then I will continue defending myself.

Who would want the only category she could care about be run over with violence? -- this, an example of insincerity and pretense of goodness? Cut the crap. You know I'm a loser and I only wallow in short-term happiness, by effect of fanfics, so I fail to see how I've been insincere with that comment. You know, I'm finding it hard to decide if you are up in a pedestal because you retort with 50% ego, 25% misunderstanding, and 25% trying-hard-assumptions, and the digits are still good enough even if mixed. If you are, then I would definitely not bother looking up to you. But since you're up there and I'm down here, a ratty conversation is to be expected. I don't expect much grace from you anyway.

11:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KanonA:

Hahahahah….there. Another one of your ad hominem arguments. There are two sides of fanfiction.net. The first side is your side, and the other side is my side, ghey’s side or even BYLT’s side who want improvement on horrendous writers like CrazyButterfly. Your side thinks we aren’t de rigueur, my side thinks we are necessary, surely, we don’t need your sanctifications for it. If we are not ready to face antitheses , we would not have wagered ourselves into such breaknecking mission, got it? And there you go, making guesstimates again, argumenting as if you are simulating the whole cosmos.

So now you want to play Mr. Webster, and create a whole new meaning for scum? A scum who wants peace, who does not need abhorrence? I remember you asked (don’t care if it’s rhetorical) why are we being hostile? INCONSISTENCIES man, INFUCKINGCONSISTENCIES, that is the whole point.

And surely I did not say,

*If you want to flame you have to consider her feelings, or we don’t want to hurt poor Julie bladiblah or anything like that shit*?

The context of that sentence is to be applied on your denial, that you don’t think Julie is hurt of it. Reading comprehension surely is not one of your expertise.That’s why I said YOU didn’t realize what effects it harbored to Julie. Understand? The subject in that sentence is you. Julie and her feelings are the objects, their mention is in the predicate of that sentence. Your logic is so indolent, all the same pathetic. And you said you agreed with a Godless God like me just because I said it, then my message is not getting to you. In your fucked up mind you still believe that it was not a flame. But because a faultless Godless Godly God like me said it, a sperm cell like you accept it, man; I’m flattered.

If I had cared about flamees’ feelings, then I would not have flamed, understand? So now you can’t seem to counter me with a solid argument, and decided I’m a hypocrite just because I said a sentence that was not about Julie but about you and your stupid bravura (the act of flaming Julie), which made your day. Why don’t you ask NightStrider, or IvyBlueSummers, or BYLT, or Dorian Ghey, they are the gods and goddeses when it comes to literary comprehension, what do they think about that ‘review’ of yours, based on their studies and experiences, was it flame or a mere review? Defending yourself is not wrong, but defending yourself on a tenous, contestable basis is just convivial.

Yes, that's egocentric, but I don't care. Though I'm beginning to see where I've gone wrong. I shouldn't have just let her know that her character, possibly herself, acted like a retarded retard, when she was just feeding fucked up pigeons, and that itself should be redeemed immediately. I should have just trusted her to improve through the more destructive ones. Did you think the others' flames would have helped her immensely instead? Didn't you think that she'd be too damaged to see through the constructive criticisms, clouded with harsher words? Following your logic of how she sees mine as a flame, it'd be more likely for her to read all the flames she got then decide to commit suicide the next moment, rather than smiling it all away like a fucked up innocent kid and sit back down again, stare on the hyperventilatingly offensive screen, trying to listen to much wiser elders, trying to let the lessons on grammar sink -- without having her feelings smashed for the second time. Do you trust her to that extent? Meaner people didn't even think she had a flea of hope in her hair.

Yeah, and that explication on the method of your flame, hahhahahahhaha. Let me give you simple logic. You impale a person through the heart, and then you heal them. Do you see any logic in that? Saying venomous words that suggested to her that her work is nothing but a pile of shit, and then you try to tell her to improve. Hahahhaha. Have you ever heard of IRONY? Check that out. So now you’re holier, godlier than those who did nothing but molest the work just because you’re offering her remedy right after? So now a tiny sliver of hope is being awarded to her by your optimism at the end of the flame? Bwahhaahahah. You have hands that you obliterated. And they’re FUCKING AMBIDEXTROUS(your hands).

She and her fucked up pidgeons, you and your fucked up hands. Hahahahah


caffeine-addict

2:00 AM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

caffeine-addict: if you want i would read shatteredteardrops' fic and if it's abysmal like before, then i'd give my criticism. mind you, criticism. hehe. ^_^

Night Strider: Nasan ka na? ^_^

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now...

KanonA: i hope you wont take this offensively; although your points would have its own worth for you, well... not all accusations are mere accusations and not all forms of discoursive defense are true. my point? -- i'm not the embodiment of truth but i can't quite grasp the verifiability of your statements. i would be glad to explicate this volition but others would say it better than me (about your standpoint about flame wars anything related to that).

conviction doesn't necessarily imply truthful understanding, you see; this standpoint would of course apply to everyone who accuses you of inconsistency, hypocrisy et al, but their assumptions are derived on your own analyticity, your own so-called "vindication", meaning, their standpoints relies logically on your own defense (this is i think paradoxical, please bear with my own viewpoint).

and i just have to react on this (about your "review" to julietearjerky). this what you posted on her 'sadness':
"Ne. I'm not going to review, since a lot of greater others have beaten me to it (look deeper. They're not just flaming. They're reviews, whether you like their forms or not). But I would just like to say what I thought of with the prologue: Shit. That was one retarded retard, and I couldn't possibly be any kinder than that.
Keep up; you can do it. :)"

in wittgenstein's language games, words can have different meanings depending on their context. now i read something on your part about the "shit" as an expression but in your review, it is actually criticizing, if not flaming, the prologue. and the phrase "That was one retarded retard, and I couldn't possibly be any kinder than that" furthers this point. and you also said that whether julietearjerky liked it or not, the reviews before yours are actually reviews. now why not just accepted the authenticity of this phenomenon; it's not as if the world will eat you alive, ne? i honestly think, too, that the last sentence of yours is not to "comfort" julie, because in its context it has overflowing sarcasm. indexicality; that's what it is (i think).

my point -- if we are to make new definitions of a "review" then the word becomes too arbitrary hence meaningless, ergo, we could all just type 'you are stupid' then consider it justly a review. that's why there are terms like "flames", "criticisms" et al.

i hope you have taken into account my points.

8:44 AM

 
Blogger aria said...

Thanks caffeine addict for understanding my comment above. I must say I'm impressed with the way you impart your thoughts in relation with criminology, i used to dream about growing up to be a forensic pathologist...whatever happened to that.


To: Kanon A







Did you think the others' flames would have helped her immensely instead? Didn't you think that she'd be too damaged to see through the constructive criticisms, clouded with harsher words? Following your logic of how she sees mine as a flame, it'd be more likely for her to read all the flames she got then decide to commit suicide the next moment, rather than smiling it all away like a fucked up innocent kid and sit back down again, stare on the hyperventilatingly offensive screen, trying to listen to much wiser elders, trying to let the lessons on grammar sink -- without having her feelings smashed for the second time. Do you trust her to that extent? Meaner people didn't even think she had a flea of hope in her hair.


---->No, I don’t think the other flamers would have helped her, in fact I don’t think they were trying to help her at all, Dorian Ghey and Bet You Love That admitted that. But these people do NOT deny that they flamed so I don’t see the argument in that one. They intended to damage Julie’s ego and succeeded in doing so. Your review for her was harsh, that’s what I said, so I don’t care about all the other flames she got: I was talking about yours alone and how she would take it as a flame. You know, even if she had read all those flames given to her by Ghey, Bet You, Thesaurus and Shakespeare and felt that she was being eaten alive by these reviewers, it doesn’t make your review less hurtful. You said that you were not trying to attack Julie as a writer altogether, you were attacking the prologue, but as I have said, you also attacked her partly because there is no way that her prologue would absorb your retarded retard comment; it ALL falls on her. It’s her creation.



I am at fault for not reviewing through, I know. But how about not finding the kind words to tell it? I didn't want to flame (if you call daring to be constructive a flame), so reviewing the second installment was out of the question. Letting her know that her prologue was retarded seemed to be of necessity for me, since she didn't seem to know, and thus dared to come out with another chapter. If she knew she had been retarded (I can't possibly understand how she can be bitter about something as weak as 'retarded', when she can see it as a chance to improve herself), maybe, JUST MAYBE, she'd scratch it next time. But there has never been the next time, huh? This is what I was telling caffeine addict - maybe she's dead already. If that's the case, then I don't know what purpose the flames served, save for the mere fun of picking on talentless people like her and me. In caffeine addict's words, that's just the superlative of sadistic and mean.


---->I know that you were not referring to her as retarded; I just said that she would be insulted with your description of her prologue because it’s her creation. Yes, but you must admit that ‘retarded retard’ is insulting even if that’s the nicest thing you could ever say to that goddamn fic. I don’t think Julie is that foreseeing to actually conceive that retarded retard comment as something helpful, the words are mean, no point denying, whether they are weak and lame, they’re still insults. It’s not like if you received a review like this: this is one crappy pile of cheese shit, you’d immediately think of revising your crappy and cheesy fic: it would dawn on you FIRST that the reviewer was insulting your fic by saying how crappy it is. And of course you would be hurt because you wouldn’t write something that is intentionally crappy, you would want readers to appreciate it that’s why you post it in the net. And to receive something like that would be a total bummer. Right? As I have mentioned thrice or twice already, I was referring to the harshness of that review, I don’t care about the tag message about improving or anything else. She would think that if you were truly trying to help her, you shouldn’t have used such words. It’s simple logic; you want to be helpful then be nice; you want to be mean but also helpful then inject insulting words. Remember, what I was pointing out in the first place is that your review is harsh.


----->To summarize everything, hurting the author was not of any concern for me, yet I don't have the time to spare for senseless violence either. I may have hurt her, yes, somehow qualifying my review as a 'flame', but I'd never do it out of fun. I wanted her to know how retarded her prologue went, thus giving her a clue that the readers might not like what would be written next, considering that the appetizer wasn't so appetizing. I mean, since I'm just a zygote and all, I never even had the chance to think if I really did want to hurt her, so intentional foulplay wasn't a part of the shit. I pray all of you understand this.


----->Now there, are you admitting that Julie might see it as a flame? If so, then that’s settled. Now for something else, I have been made to conclude that you found my review or reply for Chelating Compounds in ivy’s review page as something violent. I have given my explanation about that; I simply intended to teach her a lesson, is that violent still? Since you don’t see your review for Julie as something violent I don’t see why my you should be offended by my remark for Compounds. If you’re going to say that it brought about recollections of past flame wars which you had been tired of, then veer your bitterness to that instead, not to some reviewers who were minding their own business.


I never insulted julie. I'm sure you found the prologue retarded as well, no? If a not so positive opinion grows and circulates to a number of people, is it still an insult? I stated a fact, and dumb as I may be, I know there are people who support it. There are even people who called her work degrees and degrees of worse things than 'retard', and are all those insults as well? I think not. Everyone has his own views about things, true, and if you don't want to understand my point, then that's fine. I respect that, although things could have been better.


---->Yeah sure, that prologue is one retarded narration but if my intrinsic intention is to help her then I would certainly not put it that way. I’m not dumb, I flamed her even before you did, now what’s the chance that I don’t see that as something retarded? But since I didn’t bother trying to help her I think I might have insulted her. I don’t exactly remember my review for her but I’m pretty much sure that I also called her work retarded, and I KNOW she might have felt insulted by my remarks, that, I will NEVER deny. There are those, who didn’t intend to insult Julie but I doubt if she wouldn’t be insulted by some of those. Again, she made a lot of effort on writing that one and to receive such criticisms would certainly blow her bubble.

Yes, I didn't mention names, but I wasn't washing my hands with the fact that you were one of the people I've shamelessly called pathetic. It's obvious enough, no? This is what I told you some time back, and you probably don't remember:

I could care less about the past flame wars, or if they provided me with undulating joy for a day, I'd mention a thing or two about it on my journal. But this flame war kind of took its toll on me and was the turning point - meaning, I no longer see the wars as something to be silent about. It was getting ridiculous, shamelessly flooding review pages like that. As a result, I felt annoyance. As a result, I wrote it down in my journal. I didn't really infringe any personal right, did I? It was my own journal after all. And again, I didn't mention names; You and you and all of you may be included, but that's not the exclusive circle. Some others, like the stupid flamers who flame stupidity with stupidity that you mentioned, and some others in the past, and even chelating compounds herself were included. Is it still unjust?


---->It’s unjust because I don’t see why my reply for Chelating Compounds turned out to be pathetic when I was clearly making her see how stupid she was. Since you claimed that the reason why you wrote it down is that you were tired of flame wars, I must say that what took place in that page was not a flame war so it’s still illogical that you would call me pathetic if that was really the reason why you called me such. And this; I DON’T care if there were others included in that pathetic referral, you referred to me and that’s that. I don’t care if the whole world or even God was included in that list because they DON’T concern me, that DOESN’T make your referral less false regarding my case. I don’t know and I don’t care what the others have done to merit that word; for all I know, I did what SHOULD be done. Chelating deserved what I said to her and to receive such remark from someone ticked me off.

It's obvious that you and you and you and chelating compounds were one of the said people, but this wasn't the only flame war that got on my nerves. After having been there to watch some others spark and die in the past, I naturally could summarize the frustration of a flame war with that entry. That link on that review page was just an example. After all, I did say that was the turning point. Of course past notions on flame wars would rekindle.


----->Again, that page HARDLY represents other flame wars and other flamers. If the past and present flame wars got on your nerves then I don’t see why I should be included on that one, after all, all I did was teach Chelating a lesson. It may have rekindled your hatred for the past flame wars but I just don’t see why you could have been so careless about calling Strider and me pathetic when you didn’t know a lot, if not anything, about the circumstances. You could have linked something which is clearly a full-blown flame war.


Apology accepted, don’t wanna damage you even more.

------------------Pollux

11:16 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ivy: That's a cool critique you gave to her. Her unfounded smugness made me want to curse her,sometimes I wish Chelating Compounds would swoop down again to rescue her, so I'd teach the stupid imp a lesson again. =)

Pollux: It had been my dreams too, but actually; when I finally in the goddamn course, it's becoming more than I can handle. It's shedding my sanity, so keep your future children away from this stupid course.

Dealing with bodies and profiles --nothing to write home about.:)

12:26 AM

 
Blogger aria said...

Strider: OO nga asan ka?


Bet You Love That: Why so silent?

Caffeine Addict: Yeah it sounds really interesting, interesting as it is frustrating. I heard one also has to master some field of psychology and that's just one of many subjects required to finish it. For one thing, I live in a country where police investigation teams are rather weak because of lack of equipments necessary for detecting clues and that's really pathetic. Then the criminals are pretty careless and not as witty as those in the US so intensive investigation on crime scenes won't be necessary hahaha! Absolutely pathetic. And I don't think they offer that course in here, it's that miserable. And now I ended up studying architecture.


Oh well I guess I'd just have to wallow in Arthur Conan Doyle books haha!

10:45 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pollux: Well, it's not as interesting as it seems on TV, this investigation and criminology thingie. There are lots of cases, which were closed because of the inadequacy of evidences, there are weird cases and the stupidest thing is, ghosts exist. Or perhaps it’s phantasmagoria, but I’m convinced spirits lurk in this goddamn post-mortem room. Morbid lot, them. Other than the spirits, this course actually rocks like hell. The Doyle’s books are much commercialized than the real stuff. I used to study psychology, hence the psychopathic me. After being swallowed in the truths of criminology, I wish for nothing but to study architecture. Haahahahah. Criminology is not really suitable for women. One of my girlfriends here is suffering from some kind of phobia. She’s now under routine counseling.

So be proud of your course.=)

KanonA:

Mood: Bastardized

Surely, there are always different sides of the world. Right now, you’d think you’re Naruto and we’re Sasuke(s). But if you look closer, we are actually Naruto(s). We’re outcasts who are ostracized because of our abilities. We are the minority, and you are the significant other.


Listen to a filthy bastard like me. You go the mass each week and you seek comfort that you are moralistic. That made you feel better than a profane fucker like me. But even in this monstrousness I call myself, I succumbed to the fact that there are others better in writing than me, cleverer by a mile than me. I regarded you and I offered you my respect, but now I’m regretting it, ‘coz you are a target far pretentious and devilish than me.

I know what your fear is, and now I’m fully convinced that you really are Anonymous (suits me, then). Your biggest fear is for yourself to be called an idiot, and your insecurity is that there are intellectuals who are in its obviousness; cleverer than you. It made you lurk in people’s blogs and throw insults to them in anonymity. You’re like a snake and I pity you. You look at yourself in the mirror everyday and tell your reflection that you’re intelligent, but you know the truth is devastating you.

And the lesson here is, hostility is not the worst kind of offense to mankind.

Hyypocrisy is.

I'm nowhere near the authority to describe you, but I'm a scum, and it permits me. Please curse me, please swear at me.

10:46 PM

 
Blogger betyoulovethat said...

I ain't gonna say anythng about that but I am going to say something about Naruto.

I hate Sasuke and I think Naruto is a loser even if he's cute. So I'm not either. But in here, I'm one of these five:
1. Kabuto
2. Kisame
3. Orochimau
4. Yondaime
5. Jiraiya
Go figure. LOL

7:28 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

caffeine-addict:There are two sides of fanfiction.net. The first side is your side, and the other side is my side, ghey’s side or even BYLT’s side who want improvement on horrendous writers like CrazyButterfly. Your side thinks we aren’t de rigueur, my side thinks we are necessary, surely, we don’t need your sanctifications for it. If we are not ready to face antitheses , we would not have wagered ourselves into such breaknecking mission, got it? And there you go, making guesstimates again, argumenting as if you are simulating the whole cosmos.

I suppose I was called ad hominem because of this previous statement: I admit favoring her more than any of you, but that was if I had enough information. Why? Blame it on the grudge on your domineering, sadistic, masochistic and hedonistic propensities - you can ignite a harsh conversation when you fucking want to and you know it, and I'm far from grasping the said rationale of such attitude, so we shall leave our differences be.

You fucking HYPOCRITE. You DON'T want any improvement on horrendous writers; you want FUN, because your superior sanity craves for it. You don't flame for them to improve - if you want them to improve, that'd highlight your (nonexistent) desire to HELP horrendous writers, and in Pollux's words, flaming would not help them IMPROVE, but would rather send them off to the opposite death bed, because the fire would stick to their skin more than anything else, and since they're horrendous to begin with, you have to presume that their mentality is not that amazing to see through the flame. You (and your kind) are domineering, sadistic, masochistic, hedonistic and godless, thus in lack of moral conscience or whatsoever, and you can fucking start a harsh (one-sided) argument if you want to. If that's a bad case of simulating the whole cosmos then why not? Don't tell me those adjectives don't describe all of you perfectly. And if by some heavenly chance of truth that some of you will protest, it would be hard to buy because to attempt to sound self-effacing would be horrendously useless, in juxtaposition with what you flagrantly do, which, by the way, does not apply to any form of wanting fucking IMPROVEMENT on fucked up writers. READING COMPREHENSION, ANYONE? How come you are in confusion about what your identity is?

And I never denied that I hurt julie - I don't even care. My denial would be in the accusation that I INTENDED to hurt her - I never intended to hurt her, but if I did, and I'm sure I'm not very far from accomplishing so, then I hope she rests in peace. Quoting Pollux, conviction doesn't necessarily imply truthful understanding, but it doesn't demand lack of truthful understanding either, nor does it fully fall captive to but earthly studies, where the lowest form of education is from. I claim that it wasn't a flame because it was the TRUTH; for me it wasn't, and if it is a flame for julie and you then I don't give a fucking piss. The argument should've ended with this. But then, you refuse to understand me because you don't think my logical defense don't do enough because you apply what you study etc. (nor does it fully fall captive to but earthly studies, where the lowest form of education is from), and simply because you don't want to concede (but it doesn't demand lack of truthful understanding either). I told you that what matters most was the point that it wasn't my intention to give a flame nor hurt anyone, yet you INSIST that everything be taken into logical and clinical explanation. Well. In this time of modernity, truth and logic can no longer share one applause. With this, I hope this case ends. I still claim I didn't give a flame, fuck it if julie thought it was one, and fuck your opinions. I'm truth and you're logic so we can't really be friends. End of discussion.

Let me give you simple logic. You impale a person through the heart, and then you heal them. Do you see any logic in that? Saying venomous words that suggested to her that her work is nothing but a pile of shit, and then you try to tell her to improve.

Let me give YOU simple logic. I'm NOT like you. I don't impale a person through the heart intentionally. Telling her that her work was retarded, setting aside her efforts, was not something I'd do for fun. It was the truth. Why would I sacrifice truth for her feelings - something I don't even care about. I'm not that moralistic - I can be as amoral as anyone of you. She was retarded, but she can improve, no? Where's the irony in that? I even told her that whether she liked the way you spoke your mind or not, the shit you gave her were nonetheless reviews in some fucked up sense. That itself was consolation, since I was trying to deviate her from your flames to the sense they somehow bring into picture (and fuck it if you didn't need help - I don't care).

THIS IS WHAT YOU DO: I tell you that I didn't give her a flame, that I was trying to help her, and you spit on it as scum trashtalk, because whatever my reason is, the 'retarded retard' comment is forever subject to julie. AND THEN, when I tell you that ffnet does not need your kind of violence (frankly and obviously, it really doesn't), you say that you're necessary because you want horredous writers to improve. You're a self-righteous, selfish bitch, the one simulating ffnet's whole cosmos as yours. Fucking hypocrite.

Pollux: Yes, but you must admit that ‘retarded retard’ is insulting even if that’s the nicest thing you could ever say to that goddamn fic.

Okay, if I was given that kind of review, I'd probably explode my innards in degradation, but frankly, I still don't care if julie thinks it of as a flame. In my standpoint, if you're going to accuse me of giving a flame, you would have to consider my feelings too, because I didn't fucking intend to give a flame. It was sincerely the nicest thing I could say, and fuck logic, because it can't explain everything.

I see that your idea of a 'flame' is a review with 'injected insults'; my idea of a flame depicts exactly what BYLT and others do for fun. I guess this is where the disparity lies. Just like someone who does a sin but does not know of its true nature, is it still a sin? Same goes for me. My point is, from your opinion of what a 'flame' is, what I told her can rightfully be called one, but not entirely, because I didn't intend to achieve damaging her ego in the first place.

And this; I DON’T care if there were others included in that pathetic referral, you referred to me and that’s that. I don’t care if the whole world or even God was included in that list because they DON’T concern me, that DOESN’T make your referral less false regarding my case. I don’t know and I don’t care what the others have done to merit that word;

You know, if this is the case, then I don't really care if I offended you with such a remark; it wasn't you alone that the word 'pathetic' embodied, that's why it was that vile. As I've said, there were others. And if you still refuse to see that 'pathetic' resulted from collective ugly impressions of other people and not singularly yourself, then I don't care if I offended you. In your words, hurting you solely was not of exclusive concern for me. But since you've been the nicest to me, I stick to my apology; I know it was wrong to speak up since I didn't know much and wasn't really involved - that was where I've gone wrong. I'm sincerely sorry. I extend this apology to Night Strider as well.

caffeine-addict (again): I see you've been to my journal, where rules have been rewritten. I spent the whole Friday making sure that no entry leaks into public eye. Why Sasuke and Naruto? I like them, period. Nothing deep. I know you don't care about this, but fuck it, I'm telling you anyway.

You go the mass each week and you seek comfort that you are moralistic. That made you feel better than a profane fucker like me.

I'm pretty sure I'm more moralistic than you, but I am not moralistic at all. And it would be useless to deny that I don't feel relief because I'm not anything like you.

Your biggest fear is for yourself to be called an idiot,

True, you know. This is why I can't let go while you still speak behind my back. Ego scum, scum ego. :)

and your insecurity is that there are intellectuals who are in its obviousness; cleverer than you

BUT I am not insecure of intellectuals better than me. They exist, I have yet seen and challenged half the world; why the fuck would I be insecure? This is the reason why I've told you of how I live my delinquent life - to disprove my insecurity of people greater than me. I'm admittedly a pathetic scum, where's the fucking argument in that?

It made you lurk in people’s blogs and throw insults to them in anonymity. You’re like a snake and I pity you. You look at yourself in the mirror everyday and tell your reflection that you’re intelligent, but you know the truth is devastating you.

I'm finding this hard to accept - in fact, I will never accept this at all. I 'lurk in people's blogs and anonymously insult them'? I 'tell myself that I'm intelligent but the truth kills me'? This is not me at all. Are you throwing hypocrisy at me so that you can properly call me one? When have I insulted anyone anonymously? When have I lurked at all? When have I convinced myself that I'm intelligent, when I blatantly let the world know that it won't get anything from fucking with me, because I'm scum and my life is dirt? This is one tragic example of the impossible partnership between logic and truth. Logic is weak; it can't explain this. Only truth can, because truly, I haven't been busying myself with your affairs.

Hostility can be the greatest threat to makind, because hypocrisy somehow is conceived from such a trend; hypocrisy is the feeble man's defense mechanism. He knows he's feeble, but does not allow himself to appear so, because he doesn't want damage inflicted on him. Defense mechanism. Hypocrisy. Perpetual motion of idiocy.

I hope this mess ends soon. I can't wait to recuperate. But I refuse to acknowledge your accusations.

11:29 PM

 
Blogger The Denizen of the Dark said...

KanonA, I've been called pathetic by you. It's all clear to me and that's all I need to know. Frankly, I couldn't argue further with someone who can't properly answer the simple things I ask. I shall be out of this argument, and that maybe a relieve to you.


Ivy, I've been busy. I'll try to write though. Sorry. But I shall keep in touch, okay?

caffeine, you're really intelligent. I resort to not saying anything more because your arguments also represent mine. In that case, commenting further would only make us all redundant. Keep it up.


burning bush, that Ruhana fic sucks. It doesn;t matter what reviews are given for it.

Pollux, well said.

BYLT, 'The Wind Up Bird Chronicle' seems really interesting. I wonder why you said it wasn't as good as critics claim? Oh well, I'm still halfway.

12:34 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To my dearest little imp, KanonA
You fucking HYPOCRITE. You DON'T want any improvement on horrendous writers; you want FUN, because your superior sanity craves for it. You don't flame for them to improve - if you want them to improve, that'd highlight your (nonexistent) desire to HELP horrendous writers, and in Pollux's words, flaming would not help them IMPROVE, but would rather send them off to the opposite death bed, because the fire would stick to their skin more than anything else, and since they're horrendous to begin with, you have to presume that their mentality is not that amazing to see through the flame. You (and your kind) are domineering, sadistic, masochistic, hedonistic and godless, thus in lack of moral conscience or whatsoever, and you can fucking start a harsh (one-sided) argument if you want to. If that's a bad case of simulating the whole cosmos then why not? Don't tell me those adjectives don't describe all of you perfectly. And if by some heavenly chance of truth that some of you will protest, it would be hard to buy because to attempt to sound self-effacing would be horrendously useless, in juxtaposition with what you flagrantly do, which, by the way, does not apply to any form of wanting fucking IMPROVEMENT on fucked up writers. READING COMPREHENSION, ANYONE? How come you are in confusion about what your identity is?

Hahahahahah…someone’s got their panties in a wad today….Finally, getting hostility out of you is just so fun, because you’re fucking foreseeable.
I’ve carefully measured to you, if I’m in it for the fun, I would have flamed 89% fiction in Slam Dunk category, you wing nut. Why can’t you fucking understand? In the case of writer such as CrazyButterfly, she is so fucking recalcitrant, a mere criticism from me at first, was bypassed by her. She even came out with comment such as ‘who cares about grammatical mistakes?’ So, when the delicate attempt by me was ignored, I went to the extreme. You know how fucking horrendous was she? She wrote in her summary:-
“Rukawa and Haruko, and their relationship others hasn’t seen before…”
Now, that was a mistake committed even in the summary. And I refused to be sitting ducks about it. That was why I flamed that fucking fiction. If I’m in it for the fun, I would have flamed all the OC craps that are beginning to infest the SD category right now, do you understand? I’m not going to waste any more time, being humble to you, you idiot. I’ve said before, I am a scum, and I am masochistic, sadistic, masochistic, hedonistic and godless; but this is one thing I assume as responsibility. And my hostility, ironically had managed to penetrate through that thick skull of hers, she tweaked her story right after. What I have said, was incomprehensible to you, but surprisingly, a lot of others understood it. What you had said was considered inconsistent not just by me, but others too. The fucking cause of my hostility; was still wanting improvement, it was the method that was hostile. The INTENTION remains the same, you brick head. Or did you write a book entitled ‘KanonA’s Reading Comprehension Through Her Fucked Up Mind?’ I was referring to the sentence in which you accused me of ‘caring for Julie’s feelings.” You didn’t understand the sentence, and you didn’t understand anything we have said. Either that or you’re aphasic. And please, don’t ask anyone about reading comprehension, because it was clear, you should have asked that question to yourself.

And I never denied that I hurt julie - I don't even care. My denial would be in the accusation that I INTENDED to hurt her - I never intended to hurt her, but if I did, and I'm sure I'm not very far from accomplishing so, then I hope she rests in peace. Quoting Pollux, conviction doesn't necessarily imply truthful understanding, but it doesn't demand lack of truthful understanding either, nor does it fully fall captive to but earthly studies, where the lowest form of education is from. I claim that it wasn't a flame because it was the TRUTH; for me it wasn't, and if it is a flame for julie and you then I don't give a fucking piss. The argument should've ended with this. But then, you refuse to understand me because you don't think my logical defense don't do enough because you apply what you study etc. (nor does it fully fall captive to but earthly studies, where the lowest form of education is from), and simply because you don't want to concede (but it doesn't demand lack of truthful understanding either). I told you that what matters most was the point that it wasn't my intention to give a flame nor hurt anyone, yet you INSIST that everything be taken into logical and clinical explanation. Well. In this time of modernity, truth and logic can no longer share one applause. With this, I hope this case ends. I still claim I didn't give a flame, fuck it if Julie thought it was one, and fuck your opinions. I'm truth and you're logic so we can't really be friends. End of discussion.

Sure, you did not intended to hurt her, you were in it for the FUN. Since so many had given pieces of their minds about that fiction, you were tempted to give yours, for the sake of getting yourself into that circle of intellectual flamers, in which you could flatter yourself just like me, you hypocrite. And that quote is from IvyBlueSummers, not Pollux, you brainless little aphasist. So you’re saying it was a misunderstanding, because we fail to figure the flame in our ‘truthful understanding?’ We make our understanding based on what we have studied, based on years and years of reading and writing. Ivy even gave you his thoughts based on the Wittgenstein’s language games. If you accepted the fact that Julie and all of us had considered it as flames, then there is no point in denying that it was a flame, even if you don’t think it is. Remember, you’re just a sperm cell.
Oh, so now it’s about the truth. So what I’m pointing out to my flames are lies? I know you’re regretting flaming her, that’s why you came out with something so lame in order to defend yourself. A person is always judged by what they speak or write, it implies the state of emotions and mentality of a person, he/she is held accountable of what he/she had said. Because analytical explanation would fail you to understand (I’ve stated on why I flamed in numbered points up there, but you did not understand it.), I have to provide you logics the way I do each time I have to educate my 6-year-old brother, because your stupid brain will fail to catch what I’m implying. So you’re the embodiment of truth, my oh my. So you’re Jesus’ reincarnation. You’re so fucking narcissistic. I have said everything in relations with opinions, I never had the guts to gloat to people it is the truth (this is also applied on your statement that ffnet does not need me by fact). Even though I don’t remember any formal nor official statements where it states that ffnet does not need me, I’ll take that as another one of your pathetic arguments. Why don’t you write a book, where you can educate us all on the needlessness of logics in modern lives? And please, if you are going to make that kind of statement, please explain:-

1) On what basis?
2) On what occasions?
3) According to which philosopher?
4) Some arguments to back that up?
5) Some references on the personages who studies anthropology and sociology?

Oh and I remember logics is not anymore reliable in this modernized life? But in any case you’d come back at me with your pathetic defenses, I’d state to you that my logics are collective. Ask these people. I’m not an only applause. YOU ARE. My logics are agreed by these intellectuals – IvyBlueSummers, NightStrider, Pollux, BYLT et al. But you? Oh, perhaps your supporter is Chelating Compounds. Eat this, you’re the most idiotic person that I’ve ever encountered, and your stupidity rivals that of a donkey. I’ve only supplied my arguments with regards to other flamers, not the whole fanfiction.net, unlike you. And BTW, it’s bastard, not bitch, you pretentious, inane, self-righteous, aphasic little bitch.

Of course you’re more moralistic than me, on the outer shell. Peel off that skin, and you’re a maggot-infested ugly body. You don’t want to be called an idiot, but you have done nothing but proved that you really are. That’s why you linked Ivy’s review section to that entry and called them pathetic, and at the end of the day you lie to them, saying that it was not specifically related to that war, but other flame wars. You are still a hypocritical, pretentious little vixen. You are insecure of Ivy, NightStrider and Pollux, that was why you had to say “And still to Chelating Compounds, how true :)”, because you are a mother-fucking coward, and you enjoyed the fact that a bimbo called Chelating Compounds had the stupidity to remonstrate about intentional grammatical mistakes, which were committed in demand of the storyline itself. You’re a fucking, cowardly little nincompoop who writes in mediocrity, and you are so fucking jealous of them.


I'm finding this hard to accept - in fact, I will never accept this at all. I 'lurk in people's blogs and anonymously insult them'? I 'tell myself that I'm intelligent but the truth kills me'? This is not me at all. Are you throwing hypocrisy at me so that you can properly call me one? When have I insulted anyone anonymously? When have I lurked at all? When have I convinced myself that I'm intelligent, when I blatantly let the world know that it won't get anything from fucking with me, because I'm scum and my life is dirt? This is one tragic example of the impossible partnership between logic and truth. Logic is weak; it can't explain this. Only truth can, because truly, I haven't been busying myself with your affairs.
Again, TRUTH. I told you I am trained in criminology, and my routine is to interpret criminal profiles, based on the facts and statements that have been disseminated to me. I’ve been profiling you too. I went to your blog (Oh, I’m a psychopathic stalker, mind you) and read your comments, I went to NightStrider’s blog and read your insults, and I read your fictions, though it almost choke me with boredom, and I concluded that it was really you, based on my recent findings and newly obtained data, based on the phraseology and the chronologies. Of course, anyone with a sane mind would deny it, but please; YOU drew me into this conclusion. You’ve tried to hard to prove it was not you, and inevitably had leaked some patterns in your writing, the stance, and well, the cowardice. You just think you’re moralistic than me, but you are the embodiment of hypocrisy, and pretentiousness. You’re a psychopathic, cowardly little idiot, and you’re fucking pathetic. Morality is a disguise to obliterate the real you. You’re a DEVILRY INCARNATE, far devilish than me, BYLT, et al.

Hostility can be the greatest threat to makind, because hypocrisy somehow is conceived from such a trend; hypocrisy is the feeble man's defense mechanism. He knows he's feeble, but does not allow himself to appear so, because he doesn't want damage inflicted on him. Defense mechanism. Hypocrisy. Perpetual motion of idiocy.
Hahhahahaah…so now you’re admitting? Hahahhaha. Your answer speaks the whole truth about you, that you are a hypocrite. You’re feeble, and you don’t want to appear to, because you’re vulnerable, and you’re insecure. Hostility, is blatant; there fore a visible threat. Hypocrisy is concealed, that was why it is dangerous. You go on pretending to the likes of Ivy, Strider and Pollux that you’re honorable. The truth is you’re an imp. A ghastly, cowardly, pretentious, hypocritical little imp who gloats of rectitude. Everyone knows I’m hostile. You are too, but you hide your hostility, that’s the difference.

And I want to damage you more. Get back at me with more pathetic arguments, will you?

NightStrider: Nope. You’re more intelligent than me. I’m just a ghastly little bastard who wants to teach this little bitch a lesson on hostility. Oh yeah, you’re a great writer. And I respect you.Oh yeah, that RuHana fic surely sucks.

GOD

1:58 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

caffeine addict:

The fucking cause of my hostility; was still wanting improvement, it was the method that was hostile.

You want improvement? How about taking Pollux's words into consideration yourself? (I stand corrected about quoting; indeed, it was from ivybluesummers. Blame that to excitement.) She refused to buy my denial about julie, because there was this: She would think that if you were truly trying to help her, you shouldn’t have used such words. It’s simple logic; you want to be helpful then be nice; you want to be mean but also helpful then inject insulting words.
----that kind of disqualifies my 'review' for julie as helpful, because you are all presenting her as a dimwit for trying to feed the pigeons but not see the 'help' in flames. Tell me, if it was such a responsibility for you, why apply hostile methods? If they're as dumb as what you're telling them off to be, don't you think your desired IMPROVEMENT will never dawn upon ffnet any longer, because you've succeeded in smashing their ego into pigeon crap firsthand?

'For the sake of getting yourself into that circle of intellectual flamers...' You know, I won't resist if you call me all kinds of stupid, but as of now, I expected that since you're too much in profiling, you must have already figured out that I only bristle in the face of fucking impudent accusations without any truth whatsoever in my part. You're obviously biased; you only filter my faults, and I suppose you'll come back saying that I did nothing to suggest otherwise so I'll give up on that argument.

If you accepted the fact that Julie and all of us had considered it as flames, then there is no point in denying that it was a flame, even if you don’t think it is. Remember, you’re just a sperm cell.

And you refuse to understand this: why the fuck would I accept something that I intrinsically reject, just because it's the popular action to do? I already told you, it wasn't a flame, and if you and julie think it is, then I don't give a fucking piss. I told you this. Where's the argument? We can all live with what we believe in.

I'm jealous of them? I've been in ffnet for years, and they have been too, but why only now? Why would I be insecure only now? Please, don't put your course into shame; there's fucking phraseology and chronology and you know what? I can't even access Night Strider's blog, so how the fuck would I post insults? Your claims are one-sided, bastard. When were the so-called insults posted? So demonstrate the eloquence of your findings to me. Make me understand every little fucking detail. Give me the 5 w's and the how. I'll tell you where you've gone nothing but presumptuous. Anonymity is for cowards, gossipmongers and the Victorian era. Digest that well.

Again, you can call me all kinds of stupid if that's what you really think, but I refuse to acknowledge your accusations. And about what I said on truth and logic: ad hominem. Because there's no other way to explain. A lot has been said, and I'm sure you've forgotten what I'm doing here in the first place. The matter was between me and BYLT, and whatever I supposedly told him/her. But no, I never got my answer, and things only got worse.

3:07 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To my beloved aphasic little imp:

Fuck you for being so aphasic. the reasons on why I was being hostile was written up there, so many times, to the point of redundancy, and I don't want to explain it all over again, because you won't understand. ONLY YOU don't understand. Since literary gods and goddesses like Ivy and Strider and Pollux, Mikey and BYLT et al understood it, I don't care if you don't, because you're dyslexic, aphasic, and idiotic.

And please, don't use Pollux's words against me. You don't fucking understand. I told you, I gave her first a criticism, followed by flames. I flamed her because she was an embodiment of recalcitrance, but at first I gave her criticism. Should you gloat of morality, don't flame at all. If that was a criticism, you should have stated where Julie went wrong by pointing out her grammatical mistakes, where did she blooped? Was Rukawa OOC? What of her sentence structure? What of her plots? You said nothing but 'that was one retarded retard' at the prologue, and you did not say why. WHY? Because you didn't read the story? Hahahahha. You remind me of someone. Oh yeah, I'm still relishing on the fact you misquoted Ivy as Pollux. That made my day...Bwahahahhahahahaahhahahahhahhahah

If they're as dumb as what you're telling them off to be, don't you think your desired IMPROVEMENT will never dawn upon ffnet any longer, because you've succeeded in smashing their ego into pigeon crap firsthand?

Ohohohoho...I DID NOT FLAME JULIE... you inconsistent little imp.The answer to this is in my first answer to you in this entry just above. Please ask your English teacher if you don't understand.


And you refuse to understand this: why the fuck would I accept something that I intrinsically reject, just because it's the popular action to do? I already told you, it wasn't a flame, and if you and julie think it is, then I don't give a fucking piss. I told you this. Where's the argument? We can all live with what we believe in.

Excuse me, who initially questioned my beliefs? Who, at first; questioned my hostillity? Inconsistency again, and yeah, you're still fucking aphasic. Read back all my arguments will you? Oh, you're only a sperm cell.You don't refuse to understand, you are not able to, because you're stupid like a donkey.

I'm jealous of them? I've been in ffnet for years, and they have been too, but why only now? Why would I be insecure only now? Please, don't put your course into shame; there's fucking phraseology and chronology and you know what? I can't even access Night Strider's blog, so how the fuck would I post insults? Your claims are one-sided, bastard. When were the so-called insults posted? So demonstrate the eloquence of your findings to me. Make me understand every little fucking detail. Give me the 5 w's and the how. I'll tell you where you've gone nothing but presumptuous. Anonymity is for cowards, gossipmongers and the Victorian era. Digest that well.

Deny that will you, even if I reveal my findings to you, it is not as if you would understand.Time only managed to enhance that jealousy in you..because you're now a 16 year old with abundance of hormones, not like you used to...and your mind is playing tricks on you... You're aphasic, remember? And since you have failed to provide me valid eloquences on your accusations to me, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU MINE? Hahahahhaha...you're so fucking original.If I can access Strider's blog, then what should restrict you? Her blog allows cowardly anons like you to post comment, to my aid in analyzing you. :) Yeah, I'm a filthy bastard, why italicized that, it's not like the whole world does not already know that...:)

And regarding ad hominem arguments, it does not justify yourself. Unless, in the first place; your validity in contesting my arguments is proven. You in the first place, came here to contest my hostility in anonymity, so please don't blame me on this damage I'm doing you, you're already a fucked up loser even if I'm not here telling this to you.

Or perhaps we should meet and fuck some sense into you? Oh, I forgot. I only fuck intellectuals.

We'll continue this lethargic altercation tomorrow, neh? I'm sleepy.

3:55 AM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

i just have to comment again:

1. i also believe that logic cannot explain everything as regards with human experience but it, to say the least/nevertheless, demonstrates them.

2. the problem with the modern orthodox is the "presupposition" that human experience "must" be interpreted in post-structuralism, pragmatism and relativism. this, for me, escapes the responsibilities conditioned in one's genesis.

3. conviction, in any paradoxical form, necessarly implies a truthful understanding; it obviously wills truth. read some on nietzsche.

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4. the naruto and sasuke thing is false analogy because their characterizations don't end there; watching the latest episodes will apparently tell it so.

no offense to my points.

===

my favorite naruto character is aburame shino. hehehehe.

6:52 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My favorite is Kakashi and Shino too... :)

Now the stupid little imp is trying to bang us all together by using our points against each other, because she can't figure out her own points. What an idiot.

8:25 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

caffeine-addict:

You know, the only thing that you refuse to understand is the fact that I perfectly understand your phraseology; what I don't understand is the fucking message underneath it, because I don't know how hostility could help horrendous writers improve, and I can never grasp your rationale of hostility, upon its application on said writers, so that leads me to question. Whatever.

If that was a criticism, you should have stated where Julie went wrong by pointing out her grammatical mistakes, where did she blooped? Was Rukawa OOC? What of her sentence structure? What of her plots? You said nothing but 'that was one retarded retard' at the prologue, and you did not say why.

Sentence structure? Retarded. Plots? Feeding the pigeons isn't really bad, but to sound retarded despite the obvious effort to sound poetic is just unfortunate. I didn't say she was a retarded retard for nothing. I once admitted to Pollux that I was guilty of not reviewing through, but hey, I supposed that it'd be enough, because the prologue is the appetizer, after all. The entirety of her fic is relative on how elements are fashioned. Should you refuse to understand that because your ego can't take it, then suit yourself. I'm learning the game.

Oh yeah, and if you're going to be that way about little errors such as miquoting (forgive me, I wasn't looking. Happy? Apologies to ivybluesummers as well.), then I suppose you have to pay attention on your semi-colons. I'm not going to be chelating compounds because the use of semi-colons aren't as trivial as mistaking the comma for the period or vice-versa at the end of a quoted statement. :) Anyway.

If they're as dumb as what you're telling them off to be, don't you think your desired IMPROVEMENT will never dawn upon ffnet any longer, because you've succeeded in smashing their ego into pigeon crap firsthand?

THIS statement wasn't made to particularly regard julie - I KNOW YOU DIDN'T FLAME HER, and I kind of wonder why you missed out on such a kind. I don't know who were your unfortunate victims, but I'm presupposing them all together. If it was such a responsibility, and I know you're not doing this to help them, because it's all for the consummation of your sanity, you would've adopted the methods on how to talk to them, and not yourself. It still goes back to Pollux's words, and to the logic she begs of me. See? I don't understand your ways. I keep on questioning, because I can't think like you.

Excuse me, who initially questioned my beliefs? Who, at first(;) questioned my hostillity? Inconsistency again, and yeah, you're still fucking aphasic.

Yes, I questioned your beliefs, and I continue to question you, but I respect them, and I'm not cornering you to understand me and my supposed morality, unlike what you're doing. As I've said, I didn't give a flame, and I refuse to acknowledge otherwise, because it hadn't been in my schedule. Your ego refuses to accept that, because you want everything to fall in order through your logic. You know, if you would concede to respecting the volition that what I gave julie wasn't a flame, then I'd respect the fact that ALL OF YOU think it's a fucking flame, and WE CAN ALL LIVE IN PEACE WITH WHAT WE CHOOSE TO BELIEVE. But since I'm not getting any, this conversation's going to stall for a while more.

Time only managed to enhance that jealousy in you..because you're now a 16 year old with abundance of hormones, not like you used to...and your mind is playing tricks on you...

YOUR mind is the one playing tricks on YOU, hapless dude. How about stuffing things in my mouth more? As if you haven't done too much of it already. You think what you want to think, and since you obviously think highly of yourself, you refuse to receive crap from others. You're being pitifully, but pathetically delusional. You relish in your imagination, thinking that since you're a disciple of such a course, there's no one to contest it, and since others are that clueless, you lure them into your glory. Have it your way. You're being inconsistent. I've let you know how I'm foolishly satisfied with how I live my unproductive life, and you ditch it, just TO FIT THE TRIANGLE IN THE SQUARE DEPRESSION, just to make me appear vain and insecure of people whose existence I fully regard. It's all about you and your fuckstupid one-sided findings. It's stupid, since you seem to gloat about it, and yet you haven't verified my side; in fact, the fact that I don't lurk in the blogs of people I don't care about, and moreover to throw insults to them in anonymity only makes it stupider, because I don't do such things. Yes, you will come back with the selfish compromise (oooh, saving sanity, pathetic, hahahahaha) that sane people would deny it, but aren't you being inconsistent again? You said I'm as stupid as a donkey.

And I've only realized this now, but you said you referred to my blog and made matches on Anonymous and me through phraseology and chronology. Even if you claim I'm that stupid, I wouldn't have the audacity to blatantly make my entries public if I knew that I did something that could tempt someone to watch my back. Oh, and my condolence for the pain you experienced upon reading my fics. You just had to try your luck with demise, didn't you? You know what, give me the time frame of the crime that qualifies me as Anonymous and I'll see what I can do; I'll even make said entries public for you to examine one more time, bastard. Until then, don't assume so much. You look stupid, and I've told you why.

You in the first place, came here to contest my hostility in anonymity, so please don't blame me on this damage I'm doing you.

I came here to contest your hostility in anonymity? Excuse me, but I firmly believe I never argued here without having made sure that I indicate my identity in every comment that solely came from me. Since you're decided on carrying on with your idiocy, don't divulge your "findings" (such a professional word. It makes me shudder to have it associated with you. Is criminology this one-sided? Don't you verify it live with the alleged? Playing CSI, huh? Whatever.) to me, that's fine. As for me, that's the only thing I want to discuss with you furthermore; otherwise, carry on with your pretentious parade and I'm out of your life. Good riddance, huh?

I'LL TELL YOU THIS AGAIN, FOR YOUR SAKE: Please, don't put your course into shame; there's fucking phraseology and chronology and you know what? I can't even access Night Strider's blog, so how the fuck would I post insults? Your claims are one-sided, bastard. When were the so-called insults posted? So demonstrate the eloquence of your findings to me. Make me understand every little fucking detail. Give me the 5 w's and the how. I'll tell you where you've gone nothing but presumptuous.

I can't access Night Strider's blog. When the page is loading, I can view the text but I can't scroll down; when the loading is done, the entries disappear. I think it's an html error; if not, then there's the disparity between our browsers. I can only read entries through the SOURCE, but even then I couldn't access those INSULTS you're accusing me of, because they're on the comment page. You like assuming things, but keeping me in the dark from it is just stupid. But like what I can guarantee you, if you refuse to discuss your findings with me, then there's nothing more for me to do in this place; you can dwell in what fantasies you like, I won't care anymore. Otherwise, I can tell you where you've gone nothing but presumptuous. Dare? And fuck your excuse about me being too stupid for it. Redeem yourself.

10:13 PM

 
Blogger aria said...

Say if I call something a 'retarded retard written by an albino midget cross-deressing hemophiliac' the default message still appears: Your work sucks, it fucking sucks. But it does not necessarily mean that one would edit her work right away. In this case,whether the intention is good for hurling such insult, it all sums up as an insult.

But now that you claim that you don't care about what Julie might feel with that review of yours, that also goes to say that you weren't there to help her and oppress her, I wonder why you flamed her for, then we are led to conclude that you flamed her for the sole reason of joining in the fun? Just asking, no offense meant, I just want to clear that part since you were so persistent in the beginning that you don't flame for fun. Well, you didn't know that that may be a flame? I think it's so easy to spot. It's not like something you might suspect to be just a plain review at first glance. But if you still insist that you just reviewed her and didn't intend to flame, then I guess I have to believe you since you have been saying it over and over again, and I'm not being sarcastic so I hope you won't be offended since you seem to be blowing your top with all these comments from caffeine-addict.

(You know, if this is the case, then I don't really care if I offended you with such a remark; it wasn't you alone that the word 'pathetic' embodied, that's why it was that vile. As I've said, there were others. And if you still refuse to see that 'pathetic' resulted from collective ugly impressions of other people and not singularly yourself, then I don't care if I offended you. In your words, hurting you solely was not of exclusive concern for me. But since you've been the nicest to me, I stick to my apology; I know it was wrong to speak up since I didn't know much and wasn't really involved - that was where I've gone wrong. I'm sincerely sorry. I extend this apology to Night Strider as well)



Well then if you don't care whom you offend regardless of how much they try to mind their own business, i suspect there's something more to this... Why were you offended by our flame for Chelating Compounds? Is she, in any way related to you? Oh, you said the past flame wars offended you and seeing that review page got in your nerves and all. That's just absolutely odd, right, caffeine addict? It's like, the Germans declared war against France and Britain almost a century ago, and then just recently, US dropped a shell in the Iraqi trenches, and then out of nowhere, Kenya gets offended. Odd.


Well, I must admire you for protesting against flame wars that that harmless spark we gave Chelating Compounds got on your nerves. You really are that concerned about the SD category, aren't you? That figures, you've been a regular member for quite a few years now.


-------Pollux

12:46 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pollux:She's probably been possessed by Chelating Compounds' ghost...oh no...she feels offended because she wants too much to do what chelating compounds does, because she's a fucking coward. :)

You know, the only thing that you refuse to understand is the fact that I perfectly understand your phraseology; what I don't understand is the fucking message underneath it, because I don't know how hostility could help horrendous writers improve, and I can never grasp your rationale of hostility, upon its application on said writers, so that leads me to question. Whatever.

Woah. This is like taking a ride in merry-go-round, a full circle as in Dorian Ghey’s words. Please, PLEASE READ the numbered reasons up there on why I was being hostile. PLEASE, PLEASE READ ALL MY ARGUMENTS on why I was being hostile up there, the numbered reasons and even my previous answer to you. PLEASE, PLEASE learn reading comprehension. PLEASE, PLEASE cure your aphasic brain. PLEASE. I suppose someone as ‘intelligent’ as you should understand the whole fucking cause of my hostility, IF YOU HAD CAREFULLY READ ALL OF MY ARGUMENTS. PLEASE READ ALL OF MY ARGUMENTS. IT WOULD BE MEANINGLESS TO EXPLAIN THE WHOLE THINGS ALL OVER AGAIN. PLEASE STOP BEING APHASIC.

Sentence structure? Retarded. Plots? Feeding the pigeons isn't really bad, but to sound retarded despite the obvious effort to sound poetic is just unfortunate. I didn't say she was a retarded retard for nothing. I once admitted to Pollux that I was guilty of not reviewing through, but hey, I supposed that it'd be enough, because the prologue is the appetizer, after all. The entirety of her fic is relative on how elements are fashioned. Should you refuse to understand that because your ego can't take it, then suit yourself. I'm learning the game.

Hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha.
Stupid inconsistent little nincompoop. I said what I said because you said it was not a flame, and if you thought it wasn’t flame; you should have provided arguments on why it was not a flame the way Ivy had referred to Wittgenstein’s language games. Please provide us, enlighten us, use some facts from some reference books or college writing skills books, use dictionary to append them and describe why it was not a flame according to the context of those sentences. Look, in a sane intellectual capacity, your sentences would be regarded as a flame according to the words you have used, like ‘retarded retards’ (please check the dictionary where it states that this particular lexis, retard; is disapproving and thereupon should meticulously be understood as being offensive to most people.) You said it was not a flame, and surely it was not constructive criticism, because if it was you should have pointed out the blunders in the aspects of grammatical mistakes, why was the plot being a retarded even if only hovers around the act of feeding pigeons, on how she had arranged the sentences that it qualifies the whole prologue to be regarded as retarded in its attempt to sound poetic. And surely it was not a review, because I checked out the dictionary and it states; ’To write or give a critical report on (a new work or performance, for example)’, because you were not being critical. If only your intention was not to hurt her, you should have given a criticism the way I have stated in my previous sentences. Because if the attention alone rationalized the whole cause for your flame (that you did not want to hurt her), then I should go and rape someone’s daughter right now and then I can always provide excuse such as ‘I never intended to hurt her’. Comprehend? I’ve said before, I only flame a fiction for collective and cumulative reasons, after considering the grammatical aspects, the plots, the OOCness, the Mary-Sueness and Self Insertion to original SD Characters. All of these together, and I’ll flame, not because of one fucking aspect. Not because of only a failed attempt to sound poetic, stupid. You are so motherfucking stupid, my 6-year-old brother is cleverer than you. :)




Oh yeah, and if you're going to be that way about little errors such as miquoting (forgive me, I wasn't looking. Happy? Apologies to ivybluesummers as well.), then I suppose you have to pay attention on your semi-colons. I'm not going to be chelating compounds because the use of semi-colons aren't as trivial as mistaking the comma for the period or vice-versa at the end of a quoted statement. :) Anyway.

Who the fuck taught you English? Misquoting is a big deal, airhead. Quoting something that was not from someone, when it was clear can lead people to assume that other than stupid, you’re a scatterbrain. Remember, we are providing arguments; quoting something and stating it was from someone else will detach the credits to the person who actually quoted it. And if by any means, the quoted statements are disapproving, the other person can be accused of libel, idiot. Ohohohoho…so now it’s my semi-colons. So, if my semi-colons are bloopers, the message, the validity of my arguments debilitates? You’re such a sperm cell, your diminutive brain are so stupid, that you had to come back at me with arguments on semi-colons. You’ve probably been too colonized all of your life.

If they're as dumb as what you're telling them off to be, don't you think your desired IMPROVEMENT will never dawn upon ffnet any longer, because you've succeeded in smashing their ego into pigeon crap firsthand?

THIS statement wasn't made to particularly regard julie - I KNOW YOU DIDN'T FLAME HER, and I kind of wonder why you missed out on such a kind. I don't know who were your unfortunate victims, but I'm presupposing them all together. If it was such a responsibility, and I know you're not doing this to help them, because it's all for the consummation of your sanity, you would've adopted the methods on how to talk to them, and not yourself. It still goes back to Pollux's words, and to the logic she begs of me. See? I don't understand your ways. I keep on questioning, because I can't think like you.


You’re so FUCKING STUPID. How many times do I have to tell you, a message does not debilitate if it’s expletives-ridden. Like I already told you countless of time, extreme measures were taken by me IF THE FIRST DELICATE ATTEMPT IS IGNORED. You can’t think like me because you’re stupid like a donkey. And I didn’t state I want to help them, did I? I want them to improve, by my methods - criticize first, before flaming. That is my method. HELP is too moralistic a word because I’m a flamer, you motherfucking idiotic imp.


Excuse me, who initially questioned my beliefs? Who, at first(;) questioned my hostillity? Inconsistency again, and yeah, you're still fucking aphasic.

Yes, I questioned your beliefs, and I continue to question you, but I respect them, and I'm not cornering you to understand me and my supposed morality, unlike what you're doing. As I've said, I didn't give a flame, and I refuse to acknowledge otherwise, because it hadn't been in my schedule. Your ego refuses to accept that, because you want everything to fall in order through your logic. You know, if you would concede to respecting the volition that what I gave julie wasn't a flame, then I'd respect the fact that ALL OF YOU think it's a fucking flame, and WE CAN ALL LIVE IN PEACE WITH WHAT WE CHOOSE TO BELIEVE. But since I'm not getting any, this conversation's going to stall for a while more.


If you have respected my beliefs, why questioned them? Stupid. First you said that it was not intention you flamed her, then you said you haven’t flamed. It is not my ego, which refuse to accept that, sucker; it’s my intelligence. Other people’s arguments such as Ivy’s and Pollux’s had proven, argumentatively, supported by statements and facts, that your ‘review’ was a flame. You haven’t proven to me, critically that it was not a flame, the way they did. You only justified that by your intention alone, stupid. Sucker. Airhead. :)


YOUR mind is the one playing tricks on YOU, hapless dude. How about stuffing things in my mouth more? As if you haven't done too much of it already. You think what you want to think, and since you obviously think highly of yourself, you refuse to receive crap from others. You're being pitifully, but pathetically delusional. You relish in your imagination, thinking that since you're a disciple of such a course, there's no one to contest it, and since others are that clueless, you lure them into your glory. Have it your way. You're being inconsistent. I've let you know how I'm foolishly satisfied with how I live my unproductive life, and you ditch it, just TO FIT THE TRIANGLE IN THE SQUARE DEPRESSION, just to make me appear vain and insecure of people whose existence I fully regard. It's all about you and your fuckstupid one-sided findings. It's stupid, since you seem to gloat about it, and yet you haven't verified my side; in fact, the fact that I don't lurk in the blogs of people I don't care about, and moreover to throw insults to them in anonymity only makes it stupider, because I don't do such things. Yes, you will come back with the selfish compromise (oooh, saving sanity, pathetic, hahahahaha) that sane people would deny it, but aren't you being inconsistent again? You said I'm as stupid as a donkey.

Oh, such an idiot. First of all, I like stuffing things in your mouth, because you’re a fucking liar. Since you won’t admit, I’d have to stuff it in your hole, and I’m fucking immoral, which means I am scum, and that, again; permits me. Delusional? :) Well probably I’ve been having too much free time, that other than analyzing bodies and profiles, I have to have the delusions of you. Wow. I can’t even have delusions of, say; Norika Fujiwara and now I’m having some delusion of an ugly, aphasic, stupid bitch. How impeccable. Have it your way then, have the rectangles in octagons, pentagons on hexagons, ‘coz you have failed to predict my answer. I haven’t related my arguments with sanity other than my cause for flaming, because other than that I have provided you valid arguments under collective agreements. Ask the intellectuals’ opinions. Don’t ask yourself, ‘coz you can’t think like an intellectual; because you’re an IDIOT. The sane people would deny it, was in reference with YOU. Are you denying that you’re sane? Reading comprehension, again, Miss Aphasic. I need not verify your side, because if need to, then there would be no use of laws and enforcement. You are being judged by what you have said, the pattern of your behavior was derived from it. If the other side needs to be verified, then Charles Manson would have been a free man. IDIOT.:) This conviction is made after I have carefully measured your words, the patterns of your stance, the similarity of writing, the chronologies, if should be mention from A to Z will take a week. I’m a busy man, mind you. And you won’t understand it either. Since the simple things we have said did not get to your brain, what of complex analogies? Unless, you yourself had made valid analogies on your stance, which you have not. Oh, now I’m being inconsistent? On what basis, please? Because I said any sane people would deny it? I was referring to you, and the other sane people, fuckface. I’m crazy, and if I had done what you did, I would have admitted it, because I ain’t afraid. Or are you implying you’re crazy like me? Hahhaahhahahahahahah..yeah…you’re still stupid like a donkey :)

And I've only realized this now, but you said you referred to my blog and made matches on Anonymous and me through phraseology and chronology. Even if you claim I'm that stupid, I wouldn't have the audacity to blatantly make my entries public if I knew that I did something that could tempt someone to watch my back. Oh, and my condolence for the pain you experienced upon reading my fics. You just had to try your luck with demise, didn't you? You know what, give me the time frame of the crime that qualifies me as Anonymous and I'll see what I can do; I'll even make said entries public for you to examine one more time, bastard. Until then, don't assume so much. You look stupid, and I've told you why.

Oh, you had the audacity to made that entry saying Ivy, Strider and Pollux as pathetic. You had the audacity to still be showing yourself and answering me even that you have just made a complete humiliation on yourself by being inconsistent, hypocritical, ambidextrous, and being a fucking liar. What makes you think that even if you shield your blog from access, then I can’t hack it? I’m in an institution, equipped with sophisticated networking peripherals, I have access even to the satellite cameras, and I can see people making out in some forest in Myanmar right now, so what makes you think there is an impediment for me to read your blog? But I’m telling you, I did not read your latest entry, because I chose not to. Your profile was obtained, solely on your previous entries, your writing, your stance (after I have read all your pathetic arguments, and all the insults in Strider’s blog. But the prominent evident was still the entry in which you showed your support to Chelating Compounds. Idiot. :) Dare you deny it, you said that just because they were dominating the SD Category, but it was not an excuse for acting all princess pansy and defend your friend? Sure, some of them do know good English, but they could have at least detached the favoritism if they want to defend their friends? And then you linked Ivy’s review section, and said that ‘nobody can flame freely anymore, because if you do then their friends would retaliate. Then you stated that they are all pathetic (Ivy, strider, Pollux). And still to Chelating compounds, how true :) HAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I came here to contest your hostility in anonymity? Excuse me, but I firmly believe I never argued here without having made sure that I indicate my identity in every comment that solely came from me. Since you're decided on carrying on with your idiocy, don't divulge your "findings" (such a professional word. It makes me shudder to have it associated with you. Is criminology this one-sided? Don't you verify it live with the alleged? Playing CSI, huh? Whatever.) to me, that's fine. As for me, that's the only thing I want to discuss with you furthermore; otherwise, carry on with your pretentious parade and I'm out of your life. Good riddance, huh?

Okay, imbecile. Stop pretending like you’re a doe-eyed who had just watched your mom being stripped ad gagged, in other word, being moralistically innocent. I told you, I’m convinced that you are the anonymous, that you were the one who came here and had the audacity to remonstrate against my hostility, and I have stated why so many times but you still don’t understand. Yeah, I don’t think ‘findings’ is a professional word because I’ve been using that word since I was a child. ‘Findings’ is also used as a term when you’re doing research in Marketing, how professional is that? So now I’m putting my course to shame? I did worse than that actually, I’ve been caught hammering my course mate in my post-mortem room before, and they suspended me because they couldn’t throw me out. THEY NEED ME. For what? You’ll just come back at me by accusing me of narcissism, and mind you, I won’t deny it. So what do you think it is? What? What? From what I have studied, an absolution is necessarily concluded, to follow from a crime with inadequate proofs. In such cases, profiles should be obtained by existing evidences, such as the inconsistencies, patterns and validity of statements from convicts. The greater the extent to which a would-be offender thinks that she can get away with a crime, the less she will weigh the punishment into her deliberation of whether or not to commit the crime. Ergh. I hate it when I have to be academic in Internet. So, happy? Playing CSI is my routine, it’s gonna be my job. But actually, CSI is a commercialized predicament, the real thing is much more complicated, and not as easy, because science won’t provide accurate answers to all crimes. Happy now? :)

I'LL TELL YOU THIS AGAIN, FOR YOUR SAKE: Please, don't put your course into shame; there's fucking phraseology and chronology and you know what? I can't even access Night Strider's blog, so how the fuck would I post insults? Your claims are one-sided, bastard. When were the so-called insults posted? So demonstrate the eloquence of your findings to me. Make me understand every little fucking detail. Give me the 5 w's and the how. I'll tell you where you've gone nothing but presumptuous.

Putting my course to shame? On what basis? Chronology and phraseology is not even related to my course. I made presumptions, solely on analyses on your words and arguments, and mind you, even if I’m not studying the course, I’d still draw that conclusion, solely on your arguments, stance and writing pattern. Please don’t be too deluded in thinking that I have to use the knowledge from my studies to analyze you, because you’re not even worth it. You’re just a confused, insecure, ghastly, idiotic, pretentious, hypocritical, immature little 16-year-old imp. :)

I can't access Night Strider's blog. When the page is loading, I can view the text but I can't scroll down; when the loading is done, the entries disappear. I think it's an html error; if not, then there's the disparity between our browsers. I can only read entries through the SOURCE, but even then I couldn't access those INSULTS you're accusing me of, because they're on the comment page. You like assuming things, but keeping me in the dark from it is just stupid. But like what I can guarantee you, if you refuse to discuss your findings with me, then there's nothing more for me to do in this place; you can dwell in what fantasies you like, I won't care anymore. Otherwise, I can tell you where you've gone nothing but presumptuous. Dare? And fuck your excuse about me being too stupid for it. Redeem yourself.


Yeah, yeah. I’m so buying that. You don’t have problems accessing this blog, neh? They are from the same blog provider, and how amazing, you can access this blog and can’t access that blog. Oh, wonder. :). I’m keeping you in the dark? I’ve been so honest with you. I’ve provided all my arguments clearly, but your aphasic little brain did not understand. If you don’t care then why you’re here again? Fuck my excuse? You’ve been too stupid to understand simple things like why you are being attacked, so now fuck me to have thought of you being stupid? I won’t redeem myself, I have nothing to redeem of. Please go and learn reading comprehension, I’ve provided you answers so many times. 5 Ws and 1 H only apply for journalism. if all that ican be obtained in the first place, then there is no cause in investigating, idiot. Imbecile. Stupid. Dyslexic. Aphasic. Hypocrite. :D

4:20 AM

 
Blogger betyoulovethat said...

To Caffeine-addict:

Dude, you're really starting to scare me. People making out in a forest in Myanmar? Gawwd. It would be so embarrassing if you catch me playing Tekken and see that I suck at it so bad. :D

5:25 AM

 
Blogger thePOISONbrewer said...

caffeine-addict: yes, it kind of makes me imagine things and boil down to paranoia. hehe. but i'm good at tekken though. nina williams rocks! ^_^

7:36 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BYLT: Well, I still can't see anything shielded by roof, so those twerps should have made it in a hotel, oh yeah, that was the longest orgasm I've ever seen...wahahahahah....

Ivy: Yeah, Nina rocks like hell, but I've always loved Xiao Yu 'coz I have an eye for oriental babes...:D

Oh yeah, I went to the computer labs and have tested all internet explorer browsers supported with each windows vesion, windows 95, 98, 2000, ME and XP. I've tried WinNT and LINUX too, and all of them can access strider's blog just fine. I've also tried Mozilla and Netscape Navigator. Still fine. I know Miss Imp will come back at me by saying 'I really don't know why I can't access strider's blog and if you don't want to believe me then suits you.' so please stop lying 'coz you know intellectuals like us are so stupid to believe in such pathetic answer, eh?

8:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like what I had said, I'm out of here, should you not yield to the opposite deal.

Oh yeah, since you seem to have the equipment, why don't you try verifying Anonymous' IP address and match it with mine? Have you done that yet?

And you still look stupid. Imagine, concluding things like there isn't a billion people in the world. Oh well, the world is that small anyway.

8:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because I don't need to. You're not wort it. Don't make me repeat that again, dumby.

I look stupid? To you, yeah. I have people calling me intelligent in the Internet. In real life like 24-7, so your remark just made my day. You concluded like:

1) There is only you in the world
2) There are a billion like you in the world.

You're leaving? Don't bang the door too hard neh? Don't wanna have that door fixed again after the last time I ditched my girl.

oh yeah, GOOD RIDDANCE :D

9:05 PM

 
Blogger The Denizen of the Dark said...

I've been wondering why people can't understand what a flame is. I realized that the reason why Kanon keeps on denying that her review to julie is a flame is because she doesn't know what a flame is in the first place. I have to say though that it's a major disappointment because, frankly my dears, I wouldn't find it worthy to argue with someone who has a very limited understanding of such simple terms, not to mention someone who uses words in the wrong context (well, BYLT, you figured some out^_^). Anyhow, in case she ever returns to this page, I have prepared broad definitions of words such as 'flame', 'constructive criticism', and a 'review' based on how ffnet people see it.


FLAME: A feedback that merely attacks the author/work/or any element of the story without giving any reason to back the statement up. It usually contains harsh words that overstep the boundary between general and personal level. Sometimes, stupid comments that nitpick the work for the sake of saying something bad applies as well.

ex. 'Shit. That was one retarded retard.'



Constructive Criticism: a thought-of review wherein the critic makes a point of enumerating/mentioning
parts/elements of the story that may not be very 'apt' to the OK standards. In other words, the critic explains where and why or even how the story has gone wrong. It is important to mark that it doesn't contain words such as shit or retard or retarded.

ex. 'Rukawa is definitely out of character. It could've been more conceivable if he acts more mum or whatever, et cetera, et cetera...'


Review: There are two kinds of reviews. One is a stupid one that merely says 'Sugoi! Continue!'and the other one is the acceptable sort that gives account on why he (the reviewer) loves the story.


Neh?


And therefore I conclude that Kanon A's remark on julie's fic is actually A REVIEW. And did I mention that I'm Cleopatra? Geez, I have to find my asp.


++++++++++++


Alright, here it is; my point neither lies on what criteria her 'review' to Julie's fic falls, nor what everybody thinks of it. What my logic tells me is that if she doesn't want this category 'to be run by violence' (what a funny way of putting it), she could've told Julie's other flamers to stop flaming Julie. In that way she could've been more consistent. But instead of doing that...she said something that resembles crap. Ain't that strange though? This is what I've been trying to tell her on my previous comments but she wandered so far away from my point by saying that her review is not a flame when that's barely what I want or care to know. But that's not the first time she failed to seem to 'not want this site to be run by violence', in fact her review to Yun Fei should serve a contradiction against her principle because apparently, she did not ask me and the other flamers of Yun Fei to stop flaming her. Oh well. And she should have long ago told BYLT off for propagating scoundrelous flames but what did she do? Absolutley nothing. So much for not wanting this site to be run by violence.


What I'm very amused/confused of is that she actually considered my and Pollux's answer to Chelating Compounds as something that manifests violence when it was hardly a flame war. That was when I became sure that it's not worth explaining anything to her, especially if it insults my/our intelligence. Can anyone answer to that? If redundancy is a capital sin I would've perished a long, long time ago. And you too, people.


If she really called Pollux, ivybluesummers, and me pathetic then I am led to believe that there's something more to it. In fact, I am convinced that we annoyed (annoy) her for some reason that we don't even know, that is, aside from countering chelating compounds. Can anyone try to explain what her anger's cause is? Don't tell me it's for 'overrunning ffnet by violence.' Puh-lease. I only joined a flame war once (julie's) and if Kanon's annoyed with that, then she must demonstrate consistency by being annoyed at herself too.

PS. Will you people be kind enough to tell me who's the one acting as if she owns ffnet now? Huh? Did I ever tell people off to stop flaming because 'I hate ffnet to be run by violence'? I'm a cyber anarchist for crying out loud.

3:03 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's this? I made you look bad because I gave people the idea that you're Chelating Compounds? Don't be a fucker, BYLT suspected you first, dumby, not me.


I am not gonna explain my point about that 'well-written enough' to you again, just fucking read it and understand, take reading comprehension classes, whatfuckityever.

And that fucking statement of yours is hypocritical, don't deny it, it's fucking funny, I can't believe how concerned you are about the SD category huh? You don't want violence there? You're funny, you shouldn't have said that, I bet people are already laughing everywhere. You should be ashamed for saying that, you yourself are so fucking hostile, would you expect someone like you to hate violence when you're so fond of name-callings? How hypoocritical, i bow to you, everyone, let's have a toast for the noble and decent Kanon A for protesting against violence.


HAHAHAHAHAH



-------Burning Bush from the ashes

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